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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 01:28 PM
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Hey guys, I have a 2008 c6 Z51 ls3 vette, I did a cam install and eveyrthing went smooth, after about 500 miles it started smoking, used this forum for advise and pulled off valve covers, found the blue vitton valve seals that came with the texas speed kit to have come off the guides (5 on driver side) (2 on pass side) and got shredded. I know people have had this issue before and replaced it with felpro seals and hadnt had the problem since, just wondering if some one could chime in with some advise, or part number for the felpro seals
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Felpro SS70945 for the complete set.
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Felpro SS70945 for the complete set.
Thanks a bunch! The local parts store had them in stock, plan to do them tonight.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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For those who are wondering, the felpro seals worked magic, 300 miles none popped off, no oil consumed!
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If the valve springs aren't properly shimmed for your cam lift, assuming duals, they will experience surge and the inner will grab and ruin any brand seal
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
If the valve springs aren't properly shimmed for your cam lift, assuming duals, they will experience surge and the inner will grab and ruin any brand seal
I can say i have never actually seen that. I have seen the upper retainer spring pop off, maybe due to guide wear though.
A more common issue is the seal actually not properly "grabbing" onto the guide. Ive seen 3 26925kits that customers installed on heads and brought to me. i disassembled to shim and 3 seals were so loose they werent even tight at all on the guide. when i asked them they said they didnt think anything of it. when you've gotta hammer the rest on with a hammer and install tool and 3 just go on right by hand youd imagine they think its odd. only time recently ive seen that. they were the blue us seals iirc. not the brown and black.
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
I can say i have never actually seen that. I have seen the upper retainer spring pop off, maybe due to guide wear though.
A more common issue is the seal actually not properly "grabbing" onto the guide. Ive seen 3 26925kits that customers installed on heads and brought to me. i disassembled to shim and 3 seals were so loose they werent even tight at all on the guide. when i asked them they said they didnt think anything of it. when you've gotta hammer the rest on with a hammer and install tool and 3 just go on right by hand youd imagine they think its odd. only time recently ive seen that. they were the blue us seals iirc. not the brown and black.
Not trying to argue here but after over 1200 assemblies I've actually seen this dozens and dozens of times in circle track ****, Big Block hydraulic roller ****, and LS stuff. Not saying you're experience isn't ALSO true, but 90% of my customers believe that a 600 spring means they're ALL GOOD for a 500 lift rule class, or 650 duals put them well into the safe zone for a 600 hydraulic roller.
SO NOT TRUE AT ALL.
Springs work better AND last longer when set up to MAX them out
extra seat pressure cant hurt, but the open pressure and .060" from coil bind at max lift just keeps everything in check so the valve ultimately "sees" what the cam lobe is dictating.........
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