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Old 09-08-2018, 03:48 PM
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Alright, I'm brand new to engine building. Basically I need help, not criticism, unless I bring it upon myself. This is going to be a slow build. I'm getting a stock ls2 block. Needs rebuilt. I need to know what parts I'm going to need. I'm not looking for the fastest in the world and wanting to put up crazy numbers. Lets shoot for 450hp. If anyone has a build sheet of parts to purchase, that would be incredible. I'm excited to finally build one, and like i said this will take me a while. Just looking for some guidance. As stated around 450hp with a small cam to give it a nice lope. Please forgive me for the many questions I'll be asking.
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I'll make it easy and very fair priced for you. Call WS6store (vendor/sponsor here) for excellent service and advice along with VERY good prices for EVERYTHING you need. I kid you not, they will treat you RIGHT. They have the right stuff. Check them out to see for yourself.
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I'll make it easy and very fair priced for you. Call WS6store (vendor/sponsor here) for excellent service and advice along with VERY good prices for EVERYTHING you need. I kid you not, they will treat you RIGHT. They have the right stuff. Check them out to see for yourself.
Thank you for the help. I sent them a pm.
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Great! I don't think they'll disappoint you.
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Originally Posted by Beets
.....I'm getting a stock ls2 block. Needs rebuilt. I need to know what parts I'm going to need. I'm not looking for the fastest in the world and wanting to put up crazy numbers. Lets shoot for 450hp.......
1. Are we talking 450hp out of the engine or 450hp at the wheels?

2. What is your budget?

3. Do you already have an aftermarket (performance) air intake and exhaust?

4. if need be.....are you willing to port the heads a bit?

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1 - BUY A CNC MOTORSPORTS K1 392 STROKER KIT

2- GET YOURSELF SOME PORTED 243 HEADS OR TRICKFLOW 225s

3- FAST 102/92 INTAKE AND TBODY

4 - 1 7/8 HEADERS AND TRUE DUALS
5- UPGRADE FUEL SYSTEM - INJECTORS, FUEL PUMP
6- ALL THE NORMAL BOLT ON CRAP
7- CIRCLE D 36-3800 CONVERTER http://www.circledspecialties.com/gm
8- TUNE FOR E85 - SPEED DENSITY CONVERSION

AS FAR AS CAMSHAFT GOES, TALK TO THE PROS, TELL THEM YOUR SETUP AND HAVE THEM RECOMMEND A CAM FOR APPLICATION.
LOOK INTO A 9 INCH REAR DIFF WITH 3.90 GEARS, TALK TO LONNIE AT EXTREAM AUTOMATICS
FOR A 4L60 BUILD, SLICKS, YOUR DONE..
ADD A 100-200 NOS AND YOUR IN LOW 10S HIGH 9S.

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Originally Posted by SRT8.Acelleration
.1 - BUY A CNC MOTORSPORTS K1 392 STROKER KIT

2- GET YOURSELF SOME PORTED 243 HEADS OR TRICKFLOW 225s

3- FAST 102/92 INTAKE AND TBODY

4 - 1 7/8 HEADERS AND TRUE DUALS
5- UPGRADE FUEL SYSTEM - INJECTORS, FUEL PUMP
6- ALL THE NORMAL BOLT ON CRAP
7- CIRCLE D 36-3800 CONVERTER http://www.circledspecialties.com/gm
8- TUNE FOR E85 - SPEED DENSITY CONVERSION

AS FAR AS CAMSHAFT GOES, TALK TO THE PROS, TELL THEM YOUR SETUP AND HAVE THEM RECOMMEND A CAM FOR APPLICATION.
LOOK INTO A 9 INCH REAR DIFF WITH 3.90 GEARS, TALK TO LONNIE AT EXTREAM AUTOMATICS
FOR A 4L60 BUILD, SLICKS, YOUR DONE..
ADD A 100-200 NOS AND YOUR IN LOW 10S HIGH 9S.
Why would he need all that?

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Why would he need all that?
Why Not... who the hell builds a stock 6.0..... ****, if thats all you want buy a rebuilt ATK engine and be done with it...

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Why Not... who the hell builds a stock 6.0..... ****, if thats all you want buy a rebuilt ATK engine and be done with it...
You miss the point; He wants a 6.0 that will do 450HP WITHOUT spending an arm and a leg, which IS possible without going overboard as you would have him do.
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I have built a ton of engines, by the time you add up all the BS that goes with rebuilding a stock 6.0.. IE machine shop, hard parts, gaskets, labor, and hoping you don't screw up and still have a low power 6.0, you're better off buying a crate engine with a warranty, especially if your new to building engines.. If your looking for a project car that you enjoy working on and lacks the performance you hoped for instead of driving, then build a engine with crap parts and short cuts... your choice

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Nobody's saying crap parts and/or shortcuts. You don't need exotic parts or setups to get 450whp from a 6.0. It's not all black or white, all or nothing. A few choice parts in a basically stock 6.0 short block will get that power in a very dependable package. Decent heads, "warm" cam, and attention to detail.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Nobody's saying crap parts and/or shortcuts. You don't need exotic parts or setups to get 450whp from a 6.0. It's not all black or white, all or nothing. A few choice parts in a basically stock 6.0 short block will get that power in a very dependable package. Decent heads, "warm" cam, and attention to detail.
I know this.... the OP says he is not a builder and he needs a complete 6.0 rebuild, So cheap build = Stock Crank, buy good rods, pistons, rings, rod/main/cam bearings, and rod/main ARP bolts and Machine cost.. Then add cleaning heads, surface heads, valve job (possible guides), springs, and valve seals and ARP head bolts. Then add Camshaft (sure it wont be stock), timing chain, oil pump, all the rest of the gaskets, all the time and labor to assemble --- you really think by the time this is all done that you will save yourself a ton of money instead of buying a $3800 460hp crate engine with a warranty?
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Find a LY6 in the junkyard. Add cam, headers, tune, new oil pump and timing chain. 520 plus at the crank. Done.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
You miss the point; He wants a 6.0 that will do 450HP WITHOUT spending an arm and a leg, which IS possible without going overboard as you would have him do.
^^I'm gonna go along with this, budget wise. A SBE 6.0, decent LS3 heads, matched cam, stock LS3 intake W/NW92. Installed, dyno tune, made 450rwhp, and ran a 10.8 right off the trailer. Added a little juice and went 9.90.
My ol' truck motor beats 90K vetts all the time.
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^^I'm gonna go along with this, budget wise. A SBE 6.0, decent LS3 heads, matched cam, stock LS3 intake W/NW92. Installed, dyno tune, made 450rwhp, and ran a 10.8 right off the trailer. Added a little juice and went 9.90.
My ol' truck motor beats 90K vetts all the time.
You are all assuming the OPs short block is good, He states it needs a complete rebuild, So you need to add short block rebuild into this equation. Now if the short block is still reusable then everything changes, and if you are going to rebuild short block why would you not stroke it for added cubes, but regardless the rods and pistons are going to be junk if left stock and will not handle much more power then stock.
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Stroking it for added cubes costs a LOT more than a stock short block rebuild, which is all he needs for what he wants. Your parts list makes it a higher dollar motor than what he is after.
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Stroking it for added cubes costs a LOT more than a stock short block rebuild, which is all he needs for what he wants. Your parts list makes it a higher dollar motor than what he is after.
Well, we can agree to disagree..... i wouldn't waste my time or money building a stock short block. But whatever, to the OP, build it however you like and have fun.
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Originally Posted by Beets
Alright, I'm brand new to engine building. Basically I need help, not criticism, unless I bring it upon myself. This is going to be a slow build. I'm getting a stock ls2 block. Needs rebuilt. I need to know what parts I'm going to need. I'm not looking for the fastest in the world and wanting to put up crazy numbers. Lets shoot for 450hp. If anyone has a build sheet of parts to purchase, that would be incredible. I'm excited to finally build one, and like i said this will take me a while. Just looking for some guidance. As stated around 450hp with a small cam to give it a nice lope. Please forgive me for the many questions I'll be asking.
Pretty tough to beat this stout little package:
http://www.high-performance-engines....ine-p/hp93.htm

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……I'm not looking for the fastest in the world and wanting to put up crazy numbers. Lets shoot for 450hp…….
Originally Posted by SRT8.Acelleration
I have built a ton of engines, by the time you add up all the BS that goes with rebuilding a stock 6.0……you're better off buying a crate engine with a warranty……
Literally hundreds of people rebuild 6.0 engines. And you having built ‘tons’ of engines really isn’t the point, is it. Doing a rebuild on a 6.0 and finishing it off with ported heads and a spec’ed cam would thousands less than a max’ed out engine .

The ATK engine does have merit.....but that max-ed out build you proposed was a bit off the rails. LOL.

And Beets did state in pretty clear terms what he wanted. I’m jus’ sayin’…..

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Literally hundreds of people rebuild 6.0 engines. And you having built ‘tons’ of engines really isn’t the point, is it.Doing a rebuild on a 6.0 and finishing it off with ported heads and a spec’ed cam would thousands less than a max’ed out engine .

The ATK engine does have merit.....but that max-ed out build you proposed was a bit off the rails. LOL.

And Beets did state in pretty clear terms what he wanted. I’m jus’ sayin’…..

KW
Bingo. You put it directly AND nicely! I'm not always good at that. You made the point more thoroughly than I did. Not sure he got it though... lol



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