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Old Sep 24, 2018 | 01:13 PM
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So I recently re cammed my Camaro due to a lifter failure, got lifters out before any of them failed. Currently has a BTR Stage 4 Cam. New double springs with .660 lift titanium retainers all new LS7 lifters and all new gaskets. I torqued all the rocker arms to 22ft on the bottom of the cam lobe as directed. Rotated motor and rechecked all the bolts. After warmed up I am getting a tapping noise that I cant track down to save my life. I have attached a link to the video on you tube with the sound. Running Amsoil 5w-30 oil in it as well.

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Old Sep 24, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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Rockers have trunions in them as well.
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Originally Posted by c_LoW29
Rockers have trunions in them as well.
All of them do, which conversion did you use? Bronze bushing or needle bearing?
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Check the accessory drive. Sounds like some thing rubbing somewhere.
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Old Sep 24, 2018 | 01:50 PM
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All of them do, which conversion did you use? Bronze bushing or needle bearing?
COMP cams whichever they make.

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Old Sep 24, 2018 | 01:58 PM
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Needle bearings. One thing you should know, there HAS been a problem with trunnions wearing due to being too soft. Not just Comp's, others who used the same trunnions have the same issue. Not saying your noise is caused by the trunnions, but if you have more than 5000 miles on them you might take one apart and inspect the trunnion itself. If you have the problem, the trunnion will be worn where the bearing rides on it. The cure is a bronze bushing kit from either Straub or CHE.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Needle bearings. One thing you should know, there HAS been a problem with trunnions wearing due to being too soft. Not just Comp's, others who used the same trunnions have the same issue. Not saying your noise is caused by the trunnions, but if you have more than 5000 miles on them you might take one apart and inspect the trunnion itself. If you have the problem, the trunnion will be worn where the bearing rides on it. The cure is a bronze bushing kit from either Straub or CHE.
Only thing that confuses me is the noise is noticed lower than valve cover. With hood open it doesn't sound like that under any of the valve covers


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That’s not valvetrain noise, it’s too quick, unfortunately that sounds like rod knock.
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I thought I heard sort of a squeaking noise, thought maybe a dry rocker, but maybe not....
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I thought I heard sort of a squeaking noise, thought maybe a dry rocker, but maybe not....
Took a stethoscope to the valve covers yesterday and the noise didn't seem to be coming from there. Wouldn't a rocker with bad or failing bearings or wear make noise up top enough to notice with a stethoscope?

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Sounds kinda like an exhaust leak to me. I'd re-check all the exhaust bolts at the head and the collectors.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Needle bearings. One thing you should know, there HAS been a problem with trunnions wearing due to being too soft. Not just Comp's, others who used the same trunnions have the same issue. Not saying your noise is caused by the trunnions, but if you have more than 5000 miles on them you might take one apart and inspect the trunnion itself. If you have the problem, the trunnion will be worn where the bearing rides on it. The cure is a bronze bushing kit from either Straub or CHE.

bingo this is probabaly what wiped out last camshaft
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Uh-ohhhhh…..
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Sorry to see that. We have the bushing style kits...whatever you need to get it back together. P/N SME-K-141560 and the installation tool if you need it.
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Sorry to see that. We have the bushing style kits...whatever you need to get it back together. P/N SME-K-141560 and the installation tool if you need it.
Thanks. I ordered the bushing style summit kit and tool and changed everything out already. Valvetrain hasn't been this quiet in a while. And the tool yall sell makes the job super easy. Now to see how well the bushing style kit holds up
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Originally Posted by c_LoW29
Thanks. I ordered the bushing style summit kit and tool and changed everything out already. Valvetrain hasn't been this quiet in a while. And the tool yall sell makes the job super easy. Now to see how well the bushing style kit holds up
History has proven that it will outperform the needle bearing style. You should be OK!
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