*OFFICIAL* Smokey’s high as a kite random rambling thoughts thread!*****
First thought....teacher...only f*%k wit da 1%. Ls sales weak slow. Told brother cowboys win world series...thoughts, yea i askd ? Uncle says no sales tax on 4500 double pumpr, eff a choke. Design my own toilet bowl for this TR+head. Ask y u dodnt make einstein numbers na? Real mommy doer in the hypothetical building
could have sworn he hacked your account to post that. Roflmao 
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First thought....teacher...only f*%k wit da 1%. Ls sales weak slow. Told brother cowboys win world series...thoughts, yea i askd ? Uncle says no sales tax on 4500 double pumpr, eff a choke. Design my own toilet bowl for this TR+head. Ask y u dodnt make einstein numbers na? Real mommy doer in the hypothetical building
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Still impressed by this ONE 416ci build I know about with the factory LS3 intake and factory LS3 heads which both are untouched and its running a hydraulic roller cam. #allmotor #10s #sixpeed
Anybody else out there have a 416ci with LS3 heads thats pretty impressive?
Anybody else out there have a 416ci with LS3 heads thats pretty impressive?
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What most don't get is all the BS about having a smaller port for Tq.....ok! Where's the difference with a small gear change. 3.42 to 3.73
Or the fact that a OTB aftermarket Ls3 head just doesn't have the area to be a faster Version of....reason u seen the results u did @ Lsfest.....with a stroker you need a certain amount of Area and talking RPM & HP.
Add more $, by this time u darn near $4k+ in with just a low laying Ls3 head.
Or the fact that a OTB aftermarket Ls3 head just doesn't have the area to be a faster Version of....reason u seen the results u did @ Lsfest.....with a stroker you need a certain amount of Area and talking RPM & HP.
Add more $, by this time u darn near $4k+ in with just a low laying Ls3 head.
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I done it on stock ported intake, ported tb, stock cam, stock heads, 6 speed and sbe ls3 lol
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There was a huge debate over the square port and cathedral port.
It's all over the forums.
Even here in Australia.
Huge discussions especially in the early days.
I guess my opinion is the high end cathedrals from Mamo make some serious power and torque throughout the entire power band.
I think in the top end and beyond 7000rpm the square ports would perform better.
It's all over the forums.
Even here in Australia.
Huge discussions especially in the early days.
I guess my opinion is the high end cathedrals from Mamo make some serious power and torque throughout the entire power band.
I think in the top end and beyond 7000rpm the square ports would perform better.
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We are talking about a general OTB parts list for a 8 second pass stock block or stroker....again stock block.
PRC did it with, what a Store owned Car and or Ls7 heads BTW they where used to get more compression as the ls7 has better P 2 V clearance? That's what kills me ..you see one thing when the maker or porter does it ...then it gets to the consumer or customer and BAM! PoP! BOOM!
Flat Line! I haven't seen Nothing special about nothing seen Ls7 or 3 for a Dyno or ET that's, that much better or faster to constitute buying some of the stuff seen. Guys are doing times right now that we're done yrs ago with less technology.. I don't believe or buy the hype. Now if we are talking 1000+ HP maybe better casting but 1 for dollar..
With a good porter & good short block.....anyone can be fast not just the wallet Warriors and hell most of them ain't fast either per dollar vs ET.
PRC did it with, what a Store owned Car and or Ls7 heads BTW they where used to get more compression as the ls7 has better P 2 V clearance? That's what kills me ..you see one thing when the maker or porter does it ...then it gets to the consumer or customer and BAM! PoP! BOOM!
Flat Line! I haven't seen Nothing special about nothing seen Ls7 or 3 for a Dyno or ET that's, that much better or faster to constitute buying some of the stuff seen. Guys are doing times right now that we're done yrs ago with less technology.. I don't believe or buy the hype. Now if we are talking 1000+ HP maybe better casting but 1 for dollar..
With a good porter & good short block.....anyone can be fast not just the wallet Warriors and hell most of them ain't fast either per dollar vs ET.
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There was a huge debate over the square port and cathedral port.
It's all over the forums.
Even here in Australia.
Huge discussions especially in the early days.
I guess my opinion is the high end cathedrals from Mamo make some serious power and torque throughout the entire power band.
I think in the top end and beyond 7000rpm the square ports would perform better.
It's all over the forums.
Even here in Australia.
Huge discussions especially in the early days.
I guess my opinion is the high end cathedrals from Mamo make some serious power and torque throughout the entire power band.
I think in the top end and beyond 7000rpm the square ports would perform better.
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Everyone that has his heads never complain.
They are known for having explosive torque and hp at any rpm.
Darth had these on his ls1 and they were mental.
At the track, I'm not sure how they do.
I know the TFS 245cc head is a notorious 1/4 mile champion with a lot of guys going quick using these.
One of Brain Tooley's favourites.
Pat G seems to really like this head as well as the ported GM LS7 heads also.
I don't know much about the MAST cathedrals.
I didn't even know they make them till you mentioned it.
If I was going Cathedral I would probably go with Mamo due to the fact that he is great to deal with.
I could get the intake either a FAST 102 or an MSD through him and he will also port and match it as well as set up the heads with his springs and rockers.
I know everything will be set up right.
I would most likely use a cam motion LLSR grind too.
I have had a couple of conversations with him on the phone about this and he said for my engine the 235cc head would work best.
I won't touch any aftermarket LS3 head.
They have been proven to not really be much better than the stock head.
98_ws6_m6 coasted to mid nines on mamo heads when is inlet pipe blew off after the eighth. Something like 9.6@117.
Don't get me wrong, i know track slips are street cred, but do at least consider the possibility that it has more to do with his typical customer than his product. And FWIW, every AFR LS head you've ever seen at the track is also his.
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I think it has more to do with his typical customer base than anything else. Most of his customers want street machines and do not track. When you look at his combo's, his cams are mild. LS1 cam is 227/232 range, which is BTR stage 2-ish. Even in the LS7 camp, his cam is only 247/261. Those are street cams. I'm sort of pushing the envelope on his typical stuff with a 256/270, which might actually be a 258/272 because the cam dr report was done with 1.7 ratio not 1.8.
98_ws6_m6 coasted to mid nines on mamo heads when is inlet pipe blew off after the eighth. Something like 9.6@117.
Don't get me wrong, i know track slips are street cred, but do at least consider the possibility that it has more to do with his typical customer than his product. And FWIW, every AFR LS head you've ever seen at the track is also his.
98_ws6_m6 coasted to mid nines on mamo heads when is inlet pipe blew off after the eighth. Something like 9.6@117.
Don't get me wrong, i know track slips are street cred, but do at least consider the possibility that it has more to do with his typical customer than his product. And FWIW, every AFR LS head you've ever seen at the track is also his.
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Mamo ls7 heads and ported msd intake have run 140+mph n/a in z06's from memory in street type cars not setup for 1/4 mile. I know I remember seeing several that were impressive. Like Darth said I also noticed many of his customers aren't into setting the car up for all out ET at the track. Everyone is different but sometimes the deeper your pockets are the more you seem to not care to prove yourself only with the best 1/4 mile time slip. Personally knowing your car is fast and enjoying it on the street matters more.
There's always going to be someone at the track with a 6000rpm converter and gutted car with 4.56 gears and suspension setup for all out ET to make whatever parts they have look better than someone elses on lesser setup cars. Which is why I tend to focus more on the mph a car runs and how much improvement gained over their previous setup. I'm sure if Tony really wanted to, him or one of his customers could have some 1/4 mile times out there that are up there with anyone elses.
There's always going to be someone at the track with a 6000rpm converter and gutted car with 4.56 gears and suspension setup for all out ET to make whatever parts they have look better than someone elses on lesser setup cars. Which is why I tend to focus more on the mph a car runs and how much improvement gained over their previous setup. I'm sure if Tony really wanted to, him or one of his customers could have some 1/4 mile times out there that are up there with anyone elses.
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