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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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1) Wallace calculators

2) PipeMax not needed but good, also friends Having it 🤣

3) 3 or 4 Great engine builders and Porters to explain the above computer readings...the 1% group that each person should have. 🤫 Who Can be found in a Forum format, besides spending Money and learning. Ref: I saw Eric Roycroft, do unHeard of stuff and giving me the basic idea Then Darin Morgan 😂🤣


But if you've looked into or have gone over a certain combination size or Crank size say a 4.00 inch crank

No matter the bore!, if the same intake and heads are used, like a 4.125+ bore head isn't the same Size as a 3.9 bore but still a Ls3 top end or induction system. It may not make the same horse power as the bigger engine but if the cam doesn't change the power band will be the same.


Once you get the basics it almost Common Sense answers after that.

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G when it comes to a Engine specs or sizing of a part it's 99% Math...
Please show the math by working out a detailed example on the page. That would be very helpful. Doesn't do people any good to keep repeating it's math, it's math, and not show how.
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 05:53 PM
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Please show the math by working out a detailed example on the page. That would be very helpful. Doesn't do people any good to keep repeating it's math, it's math, and not show how.
He doesn't know the math lol haven't you noticed? All he does is talk in circles
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavn
He doesn't know the math lol haven't you noticed? All he does is talk in circles
You just post questions and buy parts with No knowledge of what your buying...Reasons for your threads and or Post.

Facts no 🐂 💩.
so I haven't taken the time to Go to Wallace calculators and use the one of many Questions answering Formulas? And then return and ask my teachers or 1% group. Get real! Just because you don't know anything and or just your builder.. Doesn't make me the same guy as you. I'll go ask the person or builder..
Basic one just for Mavn.
http://www.swartzracingmanifolds.com/tech/index.htm

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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 09:38 PM
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http://www.wallaceracing.com/csa-calc.php

G this is a start....Also where Eric started me off with, to get away from talking in Non Builder Terminology.

Port centerline length needed for the MCSA is on YB and I've posted it before..Busy @ work will post the lengths later.
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 02:10 AM
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https://www.yellowbullet.com/threads...ength.2569811/
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 07:02 AM
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Funniest thing about all this is when I would get Removed from here... It really Worked in my best interest. How could that be? Better Knowledge from Professional builders in a different setting/Forum

Reason I need to get a: "YellowBullet" body bill board.

​​​​​​Wallace has been around for yrs and if your just now using it.... Lmao to those who've Been here for Yrs and Honestly haven't even gotten the basic Formula or used the site or something like PipeMax...which is a small investment
🤔 Some are the Definition of the Ed Curtis reference line when Outside guys talking about Ls1tech In saying
ls1Sales! Cause the seller Doesn't give a person the Basic Formulas that are on Wallace calculators 🤣😂

At this point ____ I don't like you, Consider you Dumb for not going out and Learning it 4 you're self, and just a guy with Money... 👍 Best wishes.

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Anyone who Know me Knows I love to Talk 💩 added Reason I wanted to learn more. With the bonus of MFer can't Tell me 💩 about a basic as Air Pump 90+% of the time. I made Learning a Air Pump a full time job @ one point in my life. Fact! Without paying 🤣😂 for a SAMtech education...Darth knows this. There's a reason I'm always on the Web to this very day.

More Knowledge to add to the Basic Theory

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 07:04 AM
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____ learned 🤣😂 then went and got 1 of my teachers 🤣😂

Said 800 on the street was Fake using pump gas... About a month into the Thread, CDub posted his 430

Yeah I'm walking in circles talking to 🤣😂. I'm the guy who will Call/ contact Anyone 👉 anywhere in the World for a Factual Honest Answer dealing with a Air Pump..

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Corona
Port centerline length needed for the MCSA...
MCSA means minimum cross sectional area. You don't need a port centerline for that. You're thinking of average cross sectional area. It even says so in the link you posted...
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 02:52 PM
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Was @ work ....but You are Correct. ...I Luv Smart people and Don't mind correction... 👍

Btw I knew that......typing and working a Very large press Too damn fast 🤣😂👍

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 03:04 PM
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🤣😂 I still luv Mavn like I did Bortous.... Boy I didn't like him till he got the Basic premise of a Bottle neck 🤣😂 Good cam specing Some Bit#h ... Boy I miss ole Bortous...
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Corona
You just post questions and buy parts with No knowledge of what your buying..


http://www.swartzracingmanifolds.com/tech/index.htm
Why have I been 10s with a sbe n/a ls1.
Mid 5s with a turbo SBE 5.3
Ran mid 10s with a manual ls3 fbody
Been 5s on the street with my sbe 6.0 in my fbody
made 600 rwhp with a 416
470 rwhp with a SBE n/a ls1
made 1150 rwhp with a SBE 6.0
Made 1050 with a sbe 5.3

what have you done?

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:01 PM
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🤔Mavn: Starts threads not knowing rather asking questions, Build after Build that's cool...so your the Rabbit, go head and keep proving What's known. While not Truly knowing the basic Principles or the part's and what can be done with them, so basically, Paying for a educational experience But Not truly getting the Basic education of.

It's all a learning experience and what's being seen. OTB repeat after repeat.We all know what's to be expected...it's the Thinking outside the Norm or Avg sandlot with the Basic Principal's - Formula.


me: I try to Help answer some of the Harder questions of a Air Pump.

I leave you with this Mavn...You remind me of Bortous. We don't need all the back and forth.. .


If I tell you to Hook up a duck to the Got damn truck just Do it... I know something because I've already asked Professionals who have done anything You can Comprehend... Mavn I only 🖕 with the Best in gathering Knowledge. Nothing Less. Reference who I talk to....What your saying is a given as it's been done before. I'm trying to get you to learn the basics in math on the formula.


If you go into Any Professional shop and say some of the stuff or referenced things like a 240 cc head. When you walk out they're probably 🤔 ls1Sales has bought in another Basics fundamental non taught son of a Biscuit. I would like for all to not have to go thru this with the basic knowledge about a Air Pump.


Because I was the Dumb *** who sounded like you with out Having my engine built.... you've had Different Variation...but you still talk in CC number Terminology when referring to a head.

I dare not ask how would you come up with knowing how to calculate your builds peak rpm and choke points based of the CC.

Leave it alone....just hook the duck up 👍



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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Corona
🤔Mavn: Starts threads not knowing rather asking questions, Build after Build that's cool...so your the Rabbit, go head and keep proving What's known. While not Truly knowing the basic Principles or the part's and what can be done with them, so basically, Paying for a educational experience But Not truly getting the Basic education of.

It's all a learning experience and what's being seen. OTB repeat after repeat.We all know what's to be expected...it's the Thinking outside the Norm or Avg sandlot with the Basic Principal's - Formula.


me: I try to Help answer some of the Harder questions of a Air Pump.

I leave you with this Mavn...You remind me of Bortous. We don't need all the back and forth.. .


If I tell you to Hook up a duck to the Got damn truck just Do it... I know something because I've already asked Professionals who have done anything You can Comprehend... Mavn I only 🖕 with the Best in gathering Knowledge. Nothing Less. Reference who I talk to....What your saying is a given as it's been done before. I'm trying to get you to learn the basics in math on the formula.


If you go into Any Professional shop and say some of the stuff or referenced things like a 240 cc head. When you walk out they're probably 🤔 ls1Sales has bought in another Basics fundamental non taught son of a Biscuit. I would like for all to not have to go thru this with the basic knowledge about a Air Pump.


Because I was the Dumb *** who sounded like you with out Having my engine built.... you've had Different Variation...but you still talk in CC number Terminology when referring to a head.

I dare not ask how would you come up with knowing how to calculate your builds peak rpm and choke points based of the CC.

Leave it alone....just hook the duck up 👍
I’m nobody on this board, but I enjoy Mavn’s build’s, and over time, I’ve learned to appreciate your seemingly meaningless (at times) meanderings. We’re all enthusiasts. We should keep that in mind.
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:22 PM
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ER racing started me off with that basic Principle when talking about a head in CSA/MCSA. And I never spoke to anyone else in that manner using CC.. Wallace calculators 🤣
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I've got a Love affair besides Jesus and family...that should explain Everything.....I had the want/need and a Damn internet to Get anything About a Air Pump answered by what Most people would consider to the: mejor de lo mejor

Cute joke...
LME said I had a cluster 🖕 from how ER showed me how to do my heads like his after 8 months & $2000.oo to assemble my ls3 heads. 🤔 contact uncle Greg G said go over here. Work done in 4 days that Bryan could grasp. I'm not a OTB type of guy 😉
It's All about who we are talking to or learning from. The formula doesn't change 😉

I would like 4 everyone to get the Principal's.
Edit. I get what your saying Grub. But knowledge triumph's something to read. Cause you have the formula or principles to know before hand on a purchase or build not having to reference or look to others. Not saying that's bad.

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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 08:29 PM
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We are Lsx Family whether We like it not 🤣😂
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Corona
🤔Mavn: Starts threads not knowing rather asking questions, Build after Build that's cool...so your the Rabbit, go head and keep proving What's known. While not Truly knowing the basic Principles or the part's and what can be done with them, so basically, Paying for a educational experience But Not truly getting the Basic education of.

It's all a learning experience and what's being seen. OTB repeat after repeat.We all know what's to be expected...it's the Thinking outside the Norm or Avg sandlot with the Basic Principal's - Formula.


me: I try to Help answer some of the Harder questions of a Air Pump.

I leave you with this Mavn...You remind me of Bortous. We don't need all the back and forth.. .


If I tell you to Hook up a duck to the Got damn truck just Do it... I know something because I've already asked Professionals who have done anything You can Comprehend... Mavn I only 🖕 with the Best in gathering Knowledge. Nothing Less. Reference who I talk to....What your saying is a given as it's been done before. I'm trying to get you to learn the basics in math on the formula.


If you go into Any Professional shop and say some of the stuff or referenced things like a 240 cc head. When you walk out they're probably 🤔 ls1Sales has bought in another Basics fundamental non taught son of a Biscuit. I would like for all to not have to go thru this with the basic knowledge about a Air Pump.


Because I was the Dumb *** who sounded like you with out Having my engine built.... you've had Different Variation...but you still talk in CC number Terminology when referring to a head.

I dare not ask how would you come up with knowing how to calculate your builds peak rpm and choke points based of the CC.

Leave it alone....just hook the duck up 👍
As do 99% of folks here Corona. 99% here don’t give a holy rip about CSA. It’s a language that ER taught you and it’s meaningful only to a builder, not an enthusiast. Your talking down to folks because of something you know. Not cool. I know more….I’ve forgotten more….than most here, but I would never talk down to folks because of that. Again, it’s not cool. I like hanging with car guys. I have plenty of friends that build engines, and to get my fix, I go see them, and even work on stuff in my man cave, er shop. Ole Mavn has blown up more engines than you’ll ever likely build, and I don’t think he’s making power on accident. And I’m sure he’s not done yet. My opinion here is that you would get a lot more respect here if you’d ever just build an engine. It’s easy to talk smack, which you admit you do, and point fingers, but let’s see how your current build turns out. It’s not as easy as simple math and ideas from all your top 1% guys, to actually put 800 down on pump gas. It’s doable, yes, but it’s not as easy as you make it sound like. That’s why these guys give you crap. You talk the talk, and haven’t walked the walk. I’m not throwing stones here trying to make you mad. I hope your not. Not my intentions at all. Honestly I hope you make 850 on this build and earn everyone’s respect. That would be awesome, but it’s so hard to do, regardless of the formulas and equations that you’ve learned.
LS1Tech or LS1Sales as you call it, isn’t the place for the 1% that you hang with. Those folks hang out over on DTST or perhaps even YB, although it’s gone down the tubes over the last few years also. You’ve been talking about CSA for a while now, and you should see that no one here cares. Really, no one cares. That’s why 99% of folks here speak in CC’s of a head. Sure, figuring the CSA of any given port is easy enough to do with math, but nobody really cares to know that number, but a builder looking for real power. The rest of us…we’re just car guys. I got out of the business long ago. I wanted to actually make money in life, and it’s very hard to do in an engine shop.
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 10:03 PM
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Well put, Scott. Laid it out without any put-downs. Nicely done!
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Well put, Scott. Laid it out without any put-downs. Nicely done!
Not trying to put Andre down. I feel like me and him are in a good spot. I was only trying to help him see why folks rag on him. Let the engine results do the talking.
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Until Corona has a running car that performs. the dude is just a fly on the wall talking nonsense. He's never built anything. all he does is call shops and people all day and blow them up with questions. How does it take you years to build a 408? Lol because you are bottom of the barrel lol. I rest my case.
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