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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 09:22 PM
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I've been having issues with this new engine. Took it for a drive got into boost few pulls. Got home had done oil out the top of the dipstick and lots of oil and condensation in the catch can. Thinking I may have a issue with the piston rings. This engine only has free miles on it though. Any advice would be really appreciated.
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Old Mar 11, 2023 | 09:30 PM
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This is a turbo car. It's a 4.10 ci, , 12.9 compression, 102 mm turbo
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:04 PM
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It's possible you have bad rings, but how is your crankcase breathing? Catch can, stock PCV, vented to atmosphere, etc.? I've never owned a FI motor, so others that have will be better suited to answer, and more knowledgeable than I. Every engine absolutely must have some way to remove crankcase pressure. The LS engines, being of "Y" block construction are more needy in this department than the original SBC, at least where bay to bay is concerned. I'll say this much; I had an oil leak in my wet sump LS7 with LS1 oil pan. When I got it dyno tuned, my tuner/mechanic guy, who is VERY experienced, saw the mess under my C5. He asked if it was a seal, or gasket. I told him I thought it was the pan gasket. He said most every oil leak he has ever seen is usually due to poor crankcase ventilation. FWIW....
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 03:06 PM
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It has a catch can with 2 12 line coming out the valve covers. I ordered a compression tester for it. The engine is brand new only prob 10 miles on it if that. Hooping the rings aren't seated yet reason for the crank case pressure.
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 03:37 PM
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The rings are not seated,,, depending on the ring choice thats a good 1500 to 5000 miles out.

You are running non synthetic for break in? Most synth oils wont allow enough friction to work the metals, rings, valve tips, bushing rockers..

Heat cycles are your friend on motors with AL heads during break-in.
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 04:30 PM
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I hardly ever drive the car much. I'm using Schaeffer's race oil. I was told it was fine. What oil would you recommend. I used roteta in my last turbo engine never had any issues

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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 06:48 PM
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Some engine builders use non-synthetic, non-detergent oil for break in. Many others recommend regular, non-synthetic oil to help seat the rings, and don't recommend synthetic until about 1,000 miles have been accrued. So I agree with the post about using plain motor oil until 1,000-1,500 miles minimum. 5w-30 should be fine. Use a lot of varying speeds to help seat the rings. Part throttle operation creates high vacuum in the combustion chamber, which helps draw oil up into the ring pack. This is one time that around town driving is probably a good thing for the engine.
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Old Mar 15, 2023 | 07:41 PM
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How are you venting the engine?
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I'm using a catch can with a 12 an bunge it each valve cover
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 10:04 AM
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Do a leakdown and/or compression test to check the ring seal.

My turbo 4.8L has $50 Hastings rings and a dingle ball hone job and has no issues with crankcase pressure. Both valve covers have -10 lines to a vented catch can and that’s bone dry too.
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No the catch can had a decent amount in it. I hope that using that oil didn't hurt the engine where the rings won't seat now
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 10:36 AM
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My build I pretty decent build. That's why I'm kinda worried about the rings and crank case pressure
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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Don't think it takes much to seat rings

I compression checked my engine before running at 135 and after maybe 10 miles it was 155

That's just my experience, everything else I've heard says it should take longer

If the block was plateau honed it shouldn't need much if any time to seat. Just some load
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It does not take 1000+ miles to seat a set of rings. A few solid heat cycles will do it as long as the hone done on the cylinders is not a hack job
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I'm going to switch oil tonight and see if it will seat the rings. By the sounds of it it's not likely.
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I would honestly disconnect the cold side of the turbo and make the thing na if you can and get some good heat in it.
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Ok I'll try that. It has a bigger turbo on it. Compression is suppose to be 12.9 to 1. What should the tester read when I compression be on the tester. Around 135 area? Sorry all the question. Thanks for all the help I appreciate it

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How much boost are you trying to force into a 12.9:1 engine?
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I'm in e85 fuel. Not sure. Around 1200 rwhp but sure on boost level
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Better be running straight methanol
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