06 ZO6 Dino tech?
06 ZO6 Dino tech? Ive been reading a lot of people saying that the new ZO6 is not a world class car. That GM should have used more advanced technology. According to the numbers the ZO6 is everything that a worldclass supercar should be (except the price). Would everyone here rather have seen a DOHC engine in it? What about the leafspring setup in the rear? Does the fact that it has a pushrod engine and leafspring suspension make it not worldclass? I know there is a lot more technology in the LS7 then there is in most DOHC engines out there. Why all the hate against the 06 ZO6? 
Originally Posted by 01SSDRVR
Ive been reading a lot of people saying that the new ZO6 is not a world class car. That GM should have used more advanced technology. According to the numbers the ZO6 is everything that a worldclass supercar should be (except the price). Would everyone here rather have seen a DOHC engine in it? What about the leafspring setup in the rear? Does the fact that it has a pushrod engine and leafspring suspension make it not worldclass? I know there is a lot more technology in the LS7 then there is in most DOHC engines out there. Why all the hate against the 06 ZO6?
There's haters everywhere and everything is a balancing act. I know because I've been at both ends of the import and domestic spectrums. The Z06 is just barely attainable for the average hard-working guy who may not be rich but wants an amazing car. If you sold your decent car that you own ,make enough money to pay a hefty payment, and sacrifice driving a beater as your daily driver, you could afford a new Z06. Thats not very possible with other 500+ hp factory cars.
Originally Posted by 01SSDRVR
Ive been reading a lot of people saying that the new ZO6 is not a world class car. That GM should have used more advanced technology. According to the numbers the ZO6 is everything that a worldclass supercar should be (except the price). Would everyone here rather have seen a DOHC engine in it? What about the leafspring setup in the rear? Does the fact that it has a pushrod engine and leafspring suspension make it not worldclass? I know there is a lot more technology in the LS7 then there is in most DOHC engines out there. Why all the hate against the 06 ZO6?
The ACR Vipers were considered a supercar and they didnt even come with a Radio or AC and they even didnt perform as good as the New Z06 is. I dont see why if it works why knock it 
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What' s not supercar about an aluminum/ magnesium frame/ chassis? What' s not supercar about titanium engine components? What' s not supercar about advanced body panel materials, like carbon fiber fenders? I' m with you. I don' t know why it' s not considered a supercar. Probably because it IS attainable to a lot larger group of people, and there' s no exclusivity because it is, relatively, affordable.
No offense intended, but, who cares what they say? GM has a TRUE American supercar, and that' s all that I need to know
Hopefully the Blue Devil comes out, and then they' ll have their exclusivity and supercar price.
Choke on that Ford GT
No offense intended, but, who cares what they say? GM has a TRUE American supercar, and that' s all that I need to know
Hopefully the Blue Devil comes out, and then they' ll have their exclusivity and supercar price. Choke on that Ford GT
The only people who will badmouth the z06 are people who will never have one, whether they are ricers or someone who has pledged their allegiance to ford. The z06 will eat a lambo or modena in a straight line as well as show it a thing or two on the turns (Nurburgring) all for a fraction of the price. Plus it's American 
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What' s not supercar about an aluminum/ magnesium frame/ chassis? What' s not supercar about titanium engine components? What' s not supercar about advanced body panel materials, like carbon fiber fenders? I' m with you. I don' t know why it' s not considered a supercar. Probably because it IS attainable to a lot larger group of people, and there' s no exclusivity because it is, relatively, affordable.
No offense intended, but, who cares what they say? GM has a TRUE American supercar, and that' s all that I need to know Hopefully the Blue Devil comes out, and then they' ll have their exclusivity and supercar price.
Choke on that Ford GT
No offense intended, but, who cares what they say? GM has a TRUE American supercar, and that' s all that I need to know
Hopefully the Blue Devil comes out, and then they' ll have their exclusivity and supercar price. Choke on that Ford GT
Affordable price (comparitivly speaking) may mean better bang per buck. But it losses out in the WOW factor. Take a look at ANY supercar interior and then look at a Corvette interior - different league. Supercars are also hand built and very rare. Built in numbers of a few hundred a year at most. Not shipped by the thousands.
As for speed, yes it's very good. But don't take things too literal. Very few cars run at the Nurburgring without other traffic. The Z06 may have clocked a cracking time. But under equal conditons there are many cars that will match or beat it still.
The ultimate supercar test is to park up a selction of 'supercars' in a school playground and see which cars attract the most attention.
Chances are the 'king' is still top dog:
Even the C5 Z06 is so much a better car than the Lambo could ever be. But which one appears on posters in young childrens bedrooms the most?
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You do have a point. I think supercar mean different things to different people. To me, because I don' t need a carbon fiber cockpit and a car that looks like a friggin' cartoon, a supercar is a car the just kicks @$$. I see your point. It makes sense. Part of that exclusivity is in the looks. It is boring to look at, compared to a Diablo, or Modena, but, it' s a supercar to me 'cause it' s a Chevy that kicks most everyone' s butt. I guess I' m just easy to please
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The thing about leaf springs comes up over and over and over, but how long has coil springs been out? Hmm....forever! And coil springs on cars are the same as they started. At least the leaf springs in Corvette's are an advanced, very advanced, composite component. If cars started to use titanium springs (other than Ferrari), then I'd be impressed.
As far as pushrods go, it's possibly the best way to create a lightweight, compact and SIMPLE engine. It's the KISS philosophy. OHC engines push all the weight to the top of the engine, which destroys the center of gravity. Even the new Hemi engine, which is largely a copy of the LSx isn't even as good because it mounts it's cam higher up in the valley. Try finding a high hp engine of ANY displacement that weighs less than the LSx. I know of one, but it's a Europe only engine, and it takes a lot of mods to push it much over 200 hp. With the LS7 heads, they're so good that you can damn near see the of the valves....and how do you improve port shape beyond that? The LS7 heads have a huge quench area as well. Add Rhoads lifters, and you could install a big cam and still get a very drivable car, and it's one way of acting like variable valve timing/lift. When GM finally introduces variable valve timing on the LSx line, it'll be hard to say OHC engines have any advantages over the LSx.
As far as pushrods go, it's possibly the best way to create a lightweight, compact and SIMPLE engine. It's the KISS philosophy. OHC engines push all the weight to the top of the engine, which destroys the center of gravity. Even the new Hemi engine, which is largely a copy of the LSx isn't even as good because it mounts it's cam higher up in the valley. Try finding a high hp engine of ANY displacement that weighs less than the LSx. I know of one, but it's a Europe only engine, and it takes a lot of mods to push it much over 200 hp. With the LS7 heads, they're so good that you can damn near see the of the valves....and how do you improve port shape beyond that? The LS7 heads have a huge quench area as well. Add Rhoads lifters, and you could install a big cam and still get a very drivable car, and it's one way of acting like variable valve timing/lift. When GM finally introduces variable valve timing on the LSx line, it'll be hard to say OHC engines have any advantages over the LSx.
