Introducing Katech's new crate engine packages
Launching!
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I used to be a big fan of Katech (built my past 3 WC engines), but they don't seem to want the business of the little guys anymore. The doubled the prices on my last engine build, and were over a month late in getting it to me.
Obviously a reputable company IF you've got unlimited TIME and MONEY!
Obviously a reputable company IF you've got unlimited TIME and MONEY!
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From: Down Under
Originally Posted by Dave F
Obviously a reputable company IF you've got unlimited TIME and MONEY!
yup, there is a point of diminishing returns on engine builds... they have exceeded 99.9% of the typical weekend racers needs with a price tag that exceeds 99.9% of the typical weekend racers budget
kinda like a ferrari.. you get slightly better designs for ALOT more $$
yeah a total bummer when I first posted I thought I was gonna get blasted but what in the heck is $22,000 about? seriously if you have to ask you can't afford it, and to think what I could do with $22,000 from the ground up or with nothing is absolutly scary 600-700hp would be the start try 1000-1200 horses or more!!!!!!! But once again all in IMO
Katech,
Would it be possible or wise to build a LS1 402 (4.00"bore x 4.00"stroke) using the shorter 6.064 LS7 titanium rod. I know a down sized version of the LS7 piston would be needed to fit the smaller 4.00" bore but would it clear the LS1's reluctor wheel?
I was also thinking of using stock LS1 rods with the above mentioned 402 and keeping engine revs under 6200 rpm. Is the rod strong enough and where can I get custom pistons for this project?
Would it be possible or wise to build a LS1 402 (4.00"bore x 4.00"stroke) using the shorter 6.064 LS7 titanium rod. I know a down sized version of the LS7 piston would be needed to fit the smaller 4.00" bore but would it clear the LS1's reluctor wheel?
I was also thinking of using stock LS1 rods with the above mentioned 402 and keeping engine revs under 6200 rpm. Is the rod strong enough and where can I get custom pistons for this project?
Last edited by gollum; Apr 15, 2006 at 12:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
do the engines come complete and ready to run?? or are there other bits needed? if so what like??
Also do they come with ECUs???
thanks Chris.
PS some very nice engines in that line up!
Also do they come with ECUs???
thanks Chris.
PS some very nice engines in that line up!
That's absolutely false! I'm in the process of building a 427 right now and each of these parts individuley has been priced.I'm not bitching about the price....I am just stating that for money there could be alot more to be had if you took the time to do most of it yourself. I think alot of their pricing is based on their name and reputation and that does go a long way. Let's wait and see what the shortblock price is and I will then decide if they are even in the ballpark for the average blue collar guy out there. 
Traver
Traver
Originally Posted by ramairws6
That's absolutely false! I'm in the process of building a 427 right now and each of these parts individuley has been priced.I'm not bitching about the price....I am just stating that for money there could be alot more to be had if you took the time to do most of it yourself. I think alot of their pricing is based on their name and reputation and that does go a long way. Let's wait and see what the shortblock price is and I will then decide if they are even in the ballpark for the average blue collar guy out there. Traver
Traver
Originally Posted by Dune-LS1
Great products and a good price. And the people who are bitching about the price don't have a clue what the parts cost that go into these engines... You get what you pay for!
Features a Warhawk aluminum block,Mahle/Manley forged aluminum pistons (11.4:1 compression ratio),Total Seal piston rings,Eagle 4340 forged crank,Eagle 6.125”long forged steel rods with L19 bolts.101260 438 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $6,895.99101262 438 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle $6,895.99101264 454 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $6,995.99101266 454 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle $6,995.99101268 481 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $7,495.99101270 481 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle
these shortblock prices seem more inline
these shortblock prices seem more inline
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Originally Posted by OmniRex
Features a Warhawk aluminum block,Mahle/Manley forged aluminum pistons (11.4:1 compression ratio),Total Seal piston rings,Eagle 4340 forged crank,Eagle 6.125”long forged steel rods with L19 bolts.101260 438 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $6,895.99101262 438 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle $6,895.99101264 454 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $6,995.99101266 454 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle $6,995.99101268 481 c.i.d.LS1 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 15° valve angle $7,495.99101270 481 c.i.d.LS7 Low Comp.S.B.Assy for 12° valve angle
these shortblock prices seem more inline
these shortblock prices seem more inline
Originally Posted by Dune-LS1
"Eagle" rod and crank in a $4000.00 block.
On The Tree
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From: Colorado
It all depends on what you're going to be using it for. $25000 for a race engine being used primarily for racing is reasonable, IMHO. $25000 for a hobby engine being mostly driven on the street is a waste of money. There's no point in having an engine that will stand the rigors of all out road racing when you'll be driving it to work and occasionally standing on it for a mile or two.
Obviously, these prices are being set based on what the market will bear, not necessarily the cost of the build. As long as there are enough customers willing to pay the price, it will remain high and probably get higher until market forces change. Since there are lots of other quality builders that have a good product at better prices, it's not all that important.
Obviously, these prices are being set based on what the market will bear, not necessarily the cost of the build. As long as there are enough customers willing to pay the price, it will remain high and probably get higher until market forces change. Since there are lots of other quality builders that have a good product at better prices, it's not all that important.
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From: TAMPA by way of MIAMI!!!
There is ALOT to be said about the advantage that comes with experience.
Also you need to buy the proper tool for the job do not be scared by the price of race engines unless you are a racer look to what is for the street motors.
Remember you don't use a sledge hammer to tap in a penny nail.
Also you need to buy the proper tool for the job do not be scared by the price of race engines unless you are a racer look to what is for the street motors.
Remember you don't use a sledge hammer to tap in a penny nail.