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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Default Would like to put an LS7 into 2004 Tahoe...is this possible?

I figured this LS7 specific forum would know the answer to this question. I have seen the complete factory LS7 crate engine offered at $12,999 through the Jeg's catalog.

This crossed my mind when I received literature from Procharger concerning the h.p. increase for a stock 5.3 liter Tahoe; ~400 rear wheel after install. The LS7, while twice the cost would offer more power with piece of mind of new engine reliability.

In addtion, it should break into the 14's

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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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The LS7 should be able to fit into anything that an LS1 can providing that there is pan clearance for dry sump lines.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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You could have that motor rebuilt with forged stuff plus heads and cam for a lot cheaper than an ls7 and have equal if not more power.. The heads on your engine flow really well when ported, youll see a lot of ls1 guys using 5.3 heads.. and if you really needed the extra power you could just add a nitrous shot and be well above ls7 power
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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You could have that motor rebuilt with forged stuff plus heads and cam for a lot cheaper than an ls7 and have equal if not more power.. The heads on your engine flow really well when ported, youll see a lot of ls1 guys using 5.3 heads.. and if you really needed the extra power you could just add a nitrous shot and be well above ls7 power
The key term he used here is "reliable"....A crate Ls7 is going to be infintely more reliable than anything you just described....No to mention it will also make more power.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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The key term he used here is "reliable"....A crate Ls7 is going to be infintely more reliable than anything you just described....No to mention it will also make more power.
I am not opposed to looking at other options such as building up the stock engine, especially if it is cost effective. I have heard the 5.3 heads that are on my tahoe are in fact great, but only if they have substancial porting done to them. I am not interested in running nitrous. I want the power there all time even if means sacrificing high potential numbers.

I have looked at katech packages for the LS7 and it out of my budget. So a stock LS7 or another reliable way to increase horsepower will have to be explored. Thanks.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cantdrv65
The key term he used here is "reliable"....A crate Ls7 is going to be infintely more reliable than anything you just described....No to mention it will also make more power.
if an engine is built right with quality parts it'll be very reliable
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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I would look at the katech budget 427 short block and then buy ls7 heads and intake. I would thing it could be done for 3k less than buying a ls7 crate. Then all of your stock electronics coulb be used. You are going to need to upgrade to a 4l80e with that much torque. I say buy the budget block and build a mock ls7 minus the dry sump and get a 4l80e to boot for the same price.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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I would look at the katech budget 427 short block and then buy ls7 heads and intake. I would thing it could be done for 3k less than buying a ls7 crate. Then all of your stock electronics coulb be used. You are going to need to upgrade to a 4l80e with that much torque. I say buy the budget block and build a mock ls7 minus the dry sump and get a 4l80e to boot for the same price.
Thanks, after factoring the myriad of extras that would be required, I decided to go with the Procharger. Thanks to all that gave their input. I'll have to post results on the forced induction page.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Are you just slapping the Procharger on a stock shortblock with stock piston rings?
And will the 4l65E(?) hold up to the extra power and torque?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gun5l1ng3r
Are you just slapping the Procharger on a stock shortblock with stock piston rings?
And will the 4l65E(?) hold up to the extra power and torque?
Yes, and I hope so.

From what I understand, it should be a reliable set up. If you know otherwise I would appreciate your input. I started a thread on the forced induction section and was advised to do exhaust mods at a minimun to pull 400 at the wheel. The only engine upgrade to the stock 5.3 I have considered is installing a very small cam. I will however be changing out the stock muffler and replacing it with a straight through design. Any input is appreciated.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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kiss the trans good by if it is stock.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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how about the 6.0L crate motors at 345hp for $3500 and drop AFRs and a good cam for 500hp? thats what im going to do when my 5.3 takes a ****
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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you should be able to get 400 whp for a lot less than 13k....how about some AFR's, a TR224 114LSA cam(if thats too big you can go smaller but that is a great DD cam), and a full exhaust + a tune to pull it all together and you would be at or damn near close to 400 rwhp and it would be a very reliable setup.....
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SAM98WS6
how about the 6.0L crate motors at 345hp for $3500 and drop AFRs and a good cam for 500hp? thats what im going to do when my 5.3 takes a ****
That sounds like a good idea, however, my engine is far from needing replacement. The head and cam idea sounds good but the driveability would have to be near stock. I had a 224 cam in my LT1 stroker and it drove like it had a cam in it. How such a cam would behave in an LS motor is not my expertise. I'm a little nervous about a cam that large.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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My big question is why are you trying to make an SUV a race car?.. dude its not an f body,.. its a grocery getter or a bling mobile man.. Use it to tow your fbody, not race down the track ... how much is this ATI kit guna run you? what about fuel upgrades and tuning .. you can just buy yourself a ls1/lt1 roller for the price honestly.. i duno JUST my 2cents .goodluck
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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5.3Ls are turds and shouldnt even be in GM trucks. Go to SDPC and check out the complete 6.0L Escalade engines for $3699...im sure you can get them cheaper elswhere too. Not sure how hard the swap would be.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/120/...ate-Engine.htm

GM should be ashamed for not offering as an option 350+hp 400+tq 10,000 towing when they have the parts on the shelf to do it. Playing second fiddle is bullshit. I wouldnt own my avalanche if it didnt have 4.10s..the 3.73/3.42 aves cant get out of their own way. 2007s better have some **** as an option at least. Why would they even sell them with pitiful 1/2ton towing capacity compared to the competition? Ok Im done ranting...just GM is stupid.

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lethal_Ws6
My big question is why are you trying to make an SUV a race car?.. dude its not an f body,.. its a grocery getter or a bling mobile man.. Use it to tow your fbody, not race down the track ... how much is this ATI kit guna run you? what about fuel upgrades and tuning .. you can just buy yourself a ls1/lt1 roller for the price honestly.. i duno JUST my 2cents .goodluck

wow you are ignorant. there is a tahoe (whitt) and a truck (parish) sure u have heard of him that are both street wehicles that would lay the smack down on a lot of f-bods.

y do it because of people like u. it is fun to beat up on cars and be diffrent. not trying to **** u off but stating the truth.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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I was under the impression that when you put a supercharger or turbocharger on any stock motor not designed for it, that the motor was on borrowed time.

Doesn't any sort of FI eventually eat away at the stock rings? And if it is suggested to only run 3 or 4 PSI, then you are wasting your money for a very small power gain, IMO.
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Originally Posted by gun5l1ng3r
I was under the impression that when you put a supercharger or turbocharger on any stock motor not designed for it, that the motor was on borrowed time.

Doesn't any sort of FI eventually eat away at the stock rings? And if it is suggested to only run 3 or 4 PSI, then you are wasting your money for a very small power gain, IMO.
tuning is very key, and usually people want their motor to blow cause its an excuse to go better
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Originally Posted by SAM98WS6
5.3Ls are turds and shouldnt even be in GM trucks. Go to SDPC and check out the complete 6.0L Escalade engines for $3699...im sure you can get them cheaper elswhere too. Not sure how hard the swap would be.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/120/...ate-Engine.htm

GM should be ashamed for not offering as an option 350+hp 400+tq 10,000 towing when they have the parts on the shelf to do it. Playing second fiddle is bullshit. I wouldnt own my avalanche if it didnt have 4.10s..the 3.73/3.42 aves cant get out of their own way. 2007s better have some **** as an option at least. Why would they even sell them with pitiful 1/2ton towing capacity compared to the competition? Ok Im done ranting...just GM is stupid.
For less than $4000 I'll check out the 6.0. It's less than the Procharger and offers the benefit of having a new motor. I suppose working the heads and installing a small cam should make a hundred more horse than what I make currently. As far as the swap, I don't think its too involved. But I am guessing. I have a friend who is a veteran machanic at Chevy who does all my motor installs; two thus far. I imagine he could handle this without too much difficulty. And the gear change is a good idea. I custom ordered my Tahoe with all the options and the 5.3 with 3.73's is the biggest I could go for the 2004 model year.
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