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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Default MS4 v. Torquer v.3

Contemplating between these two cams. Obviously, the Torquer v.3 will have a better low-end and I would assume mid-range, while the MS4 will start making it's power in the mid-range and high-range. However, how drastic will the difference really be. Also, like many have mentioned on here, when racing or driving spiritedly, you rarely get below 4K rpm anyways.

The specs for the cam are:

Torquer v.3 - 231/234 .643"/.598" 111 LSA

MS4 - 239/242 .649"/.609" 111 LSA

These will also very likely be mated with TSP's PRC Stg. 1 LS6 heads. What should I expect from either cam as far as driving charactersitics whether it be everyday driving or racing. The car will be daily driven.

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Torquer should have better low end. MS4 should have better mid range, and better top-end. If I were you, I'd go with the MS4.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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my vote goes for the ms4...
also i got a question..with those heads u mentioned and the ms4 would it require fly cutting?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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I daily drove the MS3 for 2 years before swapping to my current setup(thanks to the lifters!). I now DD the Torv3 in my car with a set of the PRC stg 1 heads. The MS4 should clear with the Stg 1's. The MS4 will make more peak power than the v3, if that's what your looking for out of the cam. The two cams offer different powerbands, depending on what your looking for out of the setup. I have a dyno graph of my setup in the dyno section. I love the way the new setup drives. I has great mid-range and plenty of power to pull hard up top. If you have any questions, feel free to PM or call!

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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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If you are going to be daily driving this car why would you want high end torque? you will not you will be racing at all times (I hope) to make that 4k+RPM a usable power range. 90% of the time Daily driving and be more in the power range of the Torquer. If I were racing the car constantly then it would be the MS4, if puttin around town and havin fun here and there I'd go with the torquer. Its just pratical for what you are planning to use the car for, But there are also alot of other factors like: If you live out in the country where they're are alot of open roads, A4 or M6 etc.
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my cars and a4..it will be my daily driver.. but also the track is 15 min away... and ill be going every chance i could.. witch would prolly end up being 2-3 times a month... cuz of work and all.. i want a cam that will make good power across the whole powerband.. and keep pullin up high... i chose the ms4 cuz people love the ms3 and the "MS4" is suppose to be the better version.. also i do plan on spraying later down the road.. and i hear these "MS" cams love the spray... do you guys think i should consider another cam? i dont really street race anymore cuz getting cought is the worst.. and i couldnt bare it if i wrecked and killed someone.... but there are those times where u pull up to a light, and theres a mustang sitting rite next to u waiting
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