New L92 SheetMetal GP....
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We are hoping to have some soon from the intakes we have built for a few of our customers. We will be finishing up an intake for a 414 setup for one customer and an intake for a 436 build we did. Both I feel will throw down some serious power. The 414 is going into a TA and the 436 was built for a Truck, so it will be some diverse results.
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The sheet metal is going to flow better then the L76. The L76 is a nice piece and even can stand to be better when ported but a sheet metal will really take advantage of how well these heads will flow as cast and when ported. Intakes are usually one of the bigger restrictors when it comes to flow and the sheet metal will benefit those looking for that extra edge. As results come in will be more then happy to post them up.
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It would be nice to see some dyno results comparing the sheetmetal to the L76 intake... Both on F/I and NA cars. Obviously the sheetmetal will have reduced low end torque if the runners are short.
Looking at the L76 intake design, it is going to be hard to beat for a daily driver.
Looking at the L76 intake design, it is going to be hard to beat for a daily driver.
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Guys to be honest it is going to be hard to compare these 2. One is a perfect setup for daily driving. The L76 is cheap and flows very well. But like all sheetmetals they are for either squeezing every last once of power out or for cars built for drag racing/roadracing. These sheetmetals have long runners to help with low end tq. Also remember that you all will have over 400+ CID so most likely you will be starting with a decent amount of low end grunt anyways. We as of now don't have time or the money to test these 2 intakes side by side. We would like to and it would be great info but that is where our customers help us and the rest of the public out. I am sure you will see the same gains/differences from this sheetmetal as you would anyother sheetmetal vs manifold setup. Best way to judge is to compare how LS1/LS6 Sheetmetals manifolds compare to a fast Setup. Then you can be the judge if is worth the money. Price difference is approx. 1K which is not to bad in my opinion. Plus those who want/need a sheetmetal know who you are already and really should not need to be convinced. If you are on edge then you should just stick to the L76. Otherwise throw down on the GP while it is around because even at this price it is still a good deal considering the quality of work plus the fact they come with rails.
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Forgive me, Im not form this side of the site, as you can imagine there arent too many sheetmetals over on the truck side(acutally none). What is the typical difference between a FAST and sheetmetal? Powerband shift? From what I have read on the subject(very little) that a sheetmetal works best in an N/A setup correct? I am boosted so is it worth the money to upgrade to the sheetmetal since I have boost filling the runners anyway. I have top-of-the-line everything else and am wondering if buying one of these woulf be good use of my money.
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Forgive me, Im not form this side of the site, as you can imagine there arent too many sheetmetals over on the truck side(acutally none). What is the typical difference between a FAST and sheetmetal? Powerband shift? From what I have read on the subject(very little) that a sheetmetal works best in an N/A setup correct? I am boosted so is it worth the money to upgrade to the sheetmetal since I have boost filling the runners anyway. I have top-of-the-line everything else and am wondering if buying one of these woulf be good use of my money.
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Really the same concept for N/A applies for the FI guys. The benefit the FI guys have is boost on demand. If they do go with a manifold that flows less they always have the option of running an extra pound of boost. But like I stated earlier running a sheet metal allows for better flow. Here is what I do when judging a new product. How do I determine if it is worth the money? Does it fit my goals for the setup I am building?
A. Price Point: Is the product reasonably priced considering the time, quality and craftsmanship that goes into? In my opinion $1800 for a completely custom intake, machined with fuel rails and hardware is worth it when considering points B and C as well.
B. Power: Will this product produce a good power gain for the money?
- Yes Sheet Metal Manifolds have in the past shown a significant gain over other types of manifold setups. Power varies per application. Why is there not a set number for how much I will gain from a Sheet Metal? - Because most guys who run a Sheet Metal have a wide variety of setups that are usually completely custom and each has different goals for power, power band etc.
c. Aesthetic - You have to remember that part of what you are paying for is an aesthetic appeal that a Sheet Metal has. Most would agree that a Sheet Metal looks killer in the engine bay. Why do people buy Sheet Metal valve covers? For the same reason, cleaner look, better aesthetic appeal.
A. Price Point: Is the product reasonably priced considering the time, quality and craftsmanship that goes into? In my opinion $1800 for a completely custom intake, machined with fuel rails and hardware is worth it when considering points B and C as well.
B. Power: Will this product produce a good power gain for the money?
- Yes Sheet Metal Manifolds have in the past shown a significant gain over other types of manifold setups. Power varies per application. Why is there not a set number for how much I will gain from a Sheet Metal? - Because most guys who run a Sheet Metal have a wide variety of setups that are usually completely custom and each has different goals for power, power band etc.
c. Aesthetic - You have to remember that part of what you are paying for is an aesthetic appeal that a Sheet Metal has. Most would agree that a Sheet Metal looks killer in the engine bay. Why do people buy Sheet Metal valve covers? For the same reason, cleaner look, better aesthetic appeal.
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Which style injectors will be used with this? I have an L76 on order, it occured to me that I could steal the injectors and throttle body off of that piece and use on yours, and still be ahead from a dollar standpoint? If so, I'm very interested as well. Can you post a pic of the one you had in this thread, or link me to the pics you had posted before? I can't find them.
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