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508Stroker Nov 6, 2007 01:56 PM

I'm trying to go fast and cheap... I know, bad combo!
 
I read on here a few times this is possible. So here is my question (and yes I am another person that hates these) but how much power do you guys think L92 heads, port matched carbed intake, _____ cam, and a stock 6.0 would make? Magic stick any good for this combo?

How much of a power jump would there be from stock pistons to some 12:1 diamond pistons and a mild clean up port?


Sorry for another "how much" question, but I really am curious. This will be an engine swap car BTW.

slow trap Nov 6, 2007 05:31 PM

i'm not the brightest so take my opinion as it is but judging by the 408 l92/l76 combos out there through an m6 with around a 240/250 stick in them they dyno in the area of 470-485 or so with untouched heads .i can't remember seeing any comparisons between an l76 intake verses a carb intake. as for the compression increase expect the usual 4 % for each point of compression gained. decent port job should pick up 20-25 hp just taking a shot in the dark. hopefully someone with some ACTUAL experience chimes in and helps out.

tlaselva Nov 6, 2007 05:44 PM

Fast, cheap and reliable?

No such thing.

20 years in this hobby has taught me one thing.

You can only have two of the three when your building a setup.

1. Fast
2. Reliable
3. Cheap

Take your pick.

508Stroker Nov 6, 2007 05:48 PM

I didn't mention reliable ;) I know if I go fast cheap it will be a time bomb. At least it will be fun!

508Stroker Nov 6, 2007 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by slow trap (Post 8077901)
i'm not the brightest so take my opinion as it is but judging by the 408 l92/l76 combos out there through an m6 with around a 240/250 stick in them they dyno in the area of 470-485 or so with untouched heads .i can't remember seeing any comparisons between an l76 intake verses a carb intake. as for the compression increase expect the usual 4 % for each point of compression gained. decent port job should pick up 20-25 hp just taking a shot in the dark. hopefully someone with some ACTUAL experience chimes in and helps out.


I have read some shit about the carb intake. I guess it has it's problems as well, but once it is port matched it does alright.


I won't be stroking the bottom end yet, if this is even the route I go. If I do go this way I will eventually have a decent sized stroker, and some nice parts with CNC'd L92's. For now I'd like to use a stock truck bottom end possibly with forged 12:1 pistons.


Whats the truck compression anyways? 9:1?

508Stroker Nov 7, 2007 12:07 PM

anyone have any guestimations to the power of a good sized cam, stock 6.0 and L92's?

wicked@boost Nov 7, 2007 12:30 PM

I would go with a TEA stage III heads or Livernios, custom cam and a good flowing intake manifold. the reason i say this because there r many 470rwhp+ stock bottom 346ci acheiving these numbers and passed the 500rwhp mark. while the l92\l76 combos r facing difficulties and still strugiling to improve and I am suprised with people who r still cheering for those heads with no reasonable output. flow numbers not everything plus u might find ur self spending more while with less money u would make more power.

I am not against the heads , but its about the right combo. however,if this was a forced induction motor thats a different story with the l92 heads.

508Stroker Nov 7, 2007 08:07 PM

it will be a nitrous motor. I got a few plate kits laying around. I will use one of those.

V8Rumble Nov 7, 2007 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by wicked@boost
I am not against the heads , but its about the right combo. however,if this was a forced induction motor thats a different story with the l92 heads.

:huh: From what I've read, the L92 heads are heavily biased toward the intake side - I'd think that FI would exacerbate that imbalance, not help it. (Sure, higher cylinder pressures will help increase exhaust gas speeds once the valve opens, but I wouldn't think that it would be enough to completely offset the add'l volume...)

Isn't that why people are using the "large split" cams (e.g. 230/242) in the NA engines, to provide a bit more time to empty the chambers due to that imbalance?

508Stroker Nov 8, 2007 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by V8Rumble (Post 8086419)
:huh: From what I've read, the L92 heads are heavily biased toward the intake side - I'd think that FI would exacerbate that imbalance, not help it. (Sure, higher cylinder pressures will help increase exhaust gas speeds once the valve opens, but I wouldn't think that it would be enough to completely offset the add'l volume...)

Isn't that why people are using the "large split" cams (e.g. 230/242) in the NA engines, to provide a bit more time to empty the chambers due to that imbalance?

Good question. I wonder what kind of power can be had if someone were to clean the intake side up a little, and heavily port the exhaust side? Perhaps that would help bring out better combo's with the l92 heads?

beardWS6 Nov 8, 2007 02:52 AM

going Fast isn`t cheap! Sorry!!


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