Dear gmill21,

Our quality is always better than anyone else on the market. You can find see for the 3.8L Grand Prix our headers on our website is around $900 and you can find cheap China headers that are anywhere from $150 to Pacesetter headers that are $350, but when people are looking for the best they buy our headers. The China ones and Pacesetters always have exhaust leaks and never seal good. Ours have zero leaks, way easier to install, and are fully 304 stainless. When it comes to headers you get what you pay for. If you can deal with exhaust leaks and not perfect fitment then it's ok for cheap headers, but if you are looking for the best performance and best quality it has to be American made of 304 stainless and tig welding.

- zzperformance_esales
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From: gmill21
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Subject: Re: gmill21 has sent a question about item #110963727452, ending on Oct-06-13 19:32:29 PDT - 3" Catted Downpipe 05+ Grand Prix GXP 5.3 V8 exhaust Impala Monte Aluminzed
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Dear zzperformance_esales,

If you're looking in the 700-800 area would the craftsmanship compare to the almost 200.00 more expensive Doug thorley set
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> Unfortunately I know we cannot make them that cheap. We make them here, so we cannot compete with China mass productions.
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> - zzperformance_esales
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> Dear zzperformance_esales,
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> Obx has a set out for 500.00, if you could beat that and maintain quality and profitability then yes. The obx has a 3 inch downpipe and cross over included, if you sold the down pipe separate you could maximize profit. And making it function with stock cross over would reduce cost. In my opinion if you could make a set with a market price less than 400 it would sell. But it would need to apply across all ls4 vehicles.
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> Subject: Re: gmill21 has sent a question about item #110963727452, ending on Oct-06-13 19:32:29 PDT - 3" Catted Downpipe 05+ Grand Prix GXP 5.3 V8 exhaust Impala Monte Aluminzed
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> Dear gmill21,
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> We may consider it. I will discuss with our fabrication department. The downpipes took off better than expected, but when headers are made it requires a shorter downpipe. Do you think the GXP market would be willing to pay around $700 to $800 on a set of headers with downpipe?
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> Dear zzperformance_esales,
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> Would you guys consider making headers for ls4 application?
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> - gmill21
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I would be more than willing to pay up to 800 for a set of headers That are quality made like everything that i have gotten from zzp 304ss all day dont leak, easyier to install, bolt on to oem down pipe ect ect

 

WAnt ahead and bought obx headers, good quality overall. The welds are on the outside of the flanges and don't look that great but no leaks. Overall sound is good and very satisfied with the performance . Had to hillbilly rig an extension for my o2 sensor, no codes yet. Just like the Dt set low end loss (not very noticeable) and stronger top end. I don't have access to a dyno, but updates to follow when available.