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From: Cooper City, FL
Originally Posted by SidewaysLS4
Does Predator remove timing from stock? You will see KR on any stock 5.3 car WOT in 3rd gear beyond 4K RPM. Cool, Predator de-tunes our cars!!! LOL 
If you are seeing that much KR you are losing power!
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http://www.diablosport.com/index.php...display&pid=68
Do we need to worry about Release 99 (current)(REQUIRES: Newest Calibration Update from GM Dealer) disclaimer?
I just got my Predator and have already removed the tune after one day of surging. Has anyone installed the new E40-8r01 tune?
Do we need to worry about Release 99 (current)(REQUIRES: Newest Calibration Update from GM Dealer) disclaimer?
I just got my Predator and have already removed the tune after one day of surging. Has anyone installed the new E40-8r01 tune?
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Had to send DIABLOSPORT PREDATOR back-06 Monte SS Just sent my Diablosport back due to surging. I was originally told back in late September that it would take 2 weeks for them to get corrected. Called them back and they state they do not have an ETA date.
Before they put a product out, they need to make sure it is correct. We have new vehicles pretty much and I do not want a tranny or engine to go out. The new file on their site does not work as was previously stated.
I am more familiar with SUPERCHIPS. I hope they come out with a tuner.
Before they put a product out, they need to make sure it is correct. We have new vehicles pretty much and I do not want a tranny or engine to go out. The new file on their site does not work as was previously stated.
I am more familiar with SUPERCHIPS. I hope they come out with a tuner.
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by boba17
Mike at Diablo told me Not to use the New file on their site, it Doesn't work. They sent me a Tune yesterday which so far seems to work on my 2006 Impala SS.
Bob
Bob
We are currently working on these tunes as we speak. I will post here when we have solved the DOD issue.Thanks for your patience guys...
Hey boba17, any more impressions of that tune we sent ya?
Thanks
Mike
2006 Impala SS Surging Problems Mike from Diablo is Correct on their newest tune, I should have stated the DOD issue is still there, and their currently working on it to resolve this issue. In fact, I'm using my 2006 Impala SS as a test vehicle whenever needed. I received a tune last Friday and tested the vehicle all weekend and I concur with another Diablo tester with these latest results:
The latest tune has great upper RPM pull. Low RPM’s leave something to be desired though. Fuel mileage is up about 3 MPG. DOD activates great but it still has a slight surge. When your speed is up above 50 MPH you really don’t notice it to much but at low speed it is still noticeable. Throttle response is good on the upper RPM range but from a stand still it is still slow. The stock tune has better bottom end. If they can improve the bottom and keep the top it will be golden.
Diablo staff have been more than willing to help me resolve these problems, and I appreciate their willingness to let me be a tester, thanks to Mike and Johan.
Bob
The latest tune has great upper RPM pull. Low RPM’s leave something to be desired though. Fuel mileage is up about 3 MPG. DOD activates great but it still has a slight surge. When your speed is up above 50 MPH you really don’t notice it to much but at low speed it is still noticeable. Throttle response is good on the upper RPM range but from a stand still it is still slow. The stock tune has better bottom end. If they can improve the bottom and keep the top it will be golden.
Diablo staff have been more than willing to help me resolve these problems, and I appreciate their willingness to let me be a tester, thanks to Mike and Johan.
Bob
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From: sofla
OK guys, we got it!
We are planning to release a new revision which will give you the option of two tunes. One will be called WOT performance, which will be similar to the current tune, with all the power, still with a slight DOD issue, for racing, performance driving scenarios.The second will be a street tune, with no DOD issue, with a slight loss of power from the WOT tune, yet still a solid improvement over what is out there now(and over stock).
Please let me know if you guys have any input on this matter.
Thanks
Mike@Diablosport
(the new revision will be posted as soon as we finalize how to set up these tunes with input from you guys, as what you guys want is what matters the most!)
We are planning to release a new revision which will give you the option of two tunes. One will be called WOT performance, which will be similar to the current tune, with all the power, still with a slight DOD issue, for racing, performance driving scenarios.The second will be a street tune, with no DOD issue, with a slight loss of power from the WOT tune, yet still a solid improvement over what is out there now(and over stock).
Please let me know if you guys have any input on this matter.
Thanks
Mike@Diablosport
(the new revision will be posted as soon as we finalize how to set up these tunes with input from you guys, as what you guys want is what matters the most!)
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Hey sprayjunkie...
for those of us evaluating the different tunes available, I don't know if I'd want to risk my engine/tranny by using the one that still has the DOD issue...
so what are the differences and performance gains from stock to the street tune with no DOD issue??
also, I will be installing this cold air intake in a couple days:
http://coldairinductions.com/W-BodyLS4V8ColdAirBox.html
is there a tuning parameter for a cold air intake in the Predator, or is it already adjusted for a cold air intake with the performance tune, or would nothing need to be changed for this?? How would this work?
Thx!
for those of us evaluating the different tunes available, I don't know if I'd want to risk my engine/tranny by using the one that still has the DOD issue...
so what are the differences and performance gains from stock to the street tune with no DOD issue??
also, I will be installing this cold air intake in a couple days:
http://coldairinductions.com/W-BodyLS4V8ColdAirBox.html
is there a tuning parameter for a cold air intake in the Predator, or is it already adjusted for a cold air intake with the performance tune, or would nothing need to be changed for this?? How would this work?
Thx!
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www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
06MonteSS / DiabLew Tune
2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
Last edited by 06MonteSS; Oct 17, 2006 at 08:11 AM.
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I'm kinda curious, what editing program are you guys using to create PCM maps for these cars? Are you having trouble communicating with the transmission controller to reduce requested torque management vs. wiping engine torque management in the engine controller affecting DOD transitions?
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by 06MonteSS
Hey sprayjunkie...
for those of us evaluating the different tunes available, I don't know if I'd want to risk my engine/tranny by using the one that still has the DOD issue...
so what are the differences and performance gains from stock to the street tune with no DOD issue??
also, I will be installing this cold air intake in a couple days:
http://coldairinductions.com/W-BodyLS4V8ColdAirBox.html
is there a tuning parameter for a cold air intake in the Predator, or is it already adjusted for a cold air intake with the performance tune, or would nothing need to be changed for this?? How would this work?
Thx!
for those of us evaluating the different tunes available, I don't know if I'd want to risk my engine/tranny by using the one that still has the DOD issue...
so what are the differences and performance gains from stock to the street tune with no DOD issue??
also, I will be installing this cold air intake in a couple days:
http://coldairinductions.com/W-BodyLS4V8ColdAirBox.html
is there a tuning parameter for a cold air intake in the Predator, or is it already adjusted for a cold air intake with the performance tune, or would nothing need to be changed for this?? How would this work?
Thx!
We appreciate any input you guys have, so keep it coming!
Thanks
Mike
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by SidewaysLS4
I'm kinda curious, what editing program are you guys using to create PCM maps for these cars? Are you having trouble communicating with the transmission controller to reduce requested torque management vs. wiping engine torque management in the engine controller affecting DOD transitions?
Hey 06MonteSS- almost forgot, the cold air intake should work just fine with the tunes provided. We'll try testing on a car with a cold air in the future to see if there are any gains available through more tuning.
thanks
Mike
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From: CT
Originally Posted by sprayjunkie
Hey 06MonteSS- almost forgot, the cold air intake should work just fine with the tunes provided. We'll try testing on a car with a cold air in the future to see if there are any gains available through more tuning.
thanks
Mike
thanks
Mike
also, as per my other question:
what are the differences between, and performance gains from, stock to the street tune??
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
06MonteSS / DiabLew Tune
2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
Testing Diablo Performance Tunes I'm currently running a 'Street Tune' developed by Johan at Diablo. I must say, it's the Fastest tune to date for my car. My son drove the drove the car with my observations. The car was driven in Drive at a 5 mph roll, very little tire spin, but a Tremendous lurch, and the low end torque was amazing, the speedometer went from 20 to 90mph, in no time at all.
My 'Street Tune' does Not use the DOD, nor do i want it! I have another 'Tune' file which has the DOD enabled and works just fine. My 'Street Tune' from Johan has more 'Top End Power'.
I want to thank Mike and Johan at Diablo for letting me tune their software, I love doing it, and my car is certainly faster than stock.
Bob
My 'Street Tune' does Not use the DOD, nor do i want it! I have another 'Tune' file which has the DOD enabled and works just fine. My 'Street Tune' from Johan has more 'Top End Power'.
I want to thank Mike and Johan at Diablo for letting me tune their software, I love doing it, and my car is certainly faster than stock.
Bob
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From: CT
Originally Posted by boba17
My 'Street Tune' does Not use the DOD
so even in [D] Drive, they totally disabled the DOD?? Or did they just fix the DOD issue they were having so you don't feel it now??
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2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
06MonteSS / DiabLew Tune
2014 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3, 6-speed manual, short-throw performance shifter, NPP dual-mode performance exhaust, 1LE front splitter, ZL1 rockers, Z28 Rear Spoiler, all paint-matched Red Rock Metallic, BMR strut tower brace, Cold Air Inductions cold air intake, Apex Motorsports, Inc. catch-can, Custom DiabLew Tune
www.diablewtune.com -- www.diablocustomtune.com -- www.diablocustomtunegm.com
Diablo Tunes I have Two (2) tunes, one which had the DOD disabled, and is by far the Fastest tune. The second tune is with the DOD enabled, with no surging taking place, but not as fast due to Top End Power not programmed in the software.
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Some one needs to get this to a dyno and let the world know the truth about these numbers. I really would like to know the difference between stock/street and street/race tune and the numbers they produce.
Tate
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From: sofla
Originally Posted by Compg
Some one needs to get this to a dyno and let the world know the truth about these numbers. I really would like to know the difference between stock/street and street/race tune and the numbers they produce.
Tate
Tate
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From: South Florida
I live in Fort Lauderdale and I own a 2006 SS IMP
Originally Posted by sprayjunkie
Anyone in south Florida thats interested let me know, I'd love to get a car in here to show you guys some dyno numbers on both tunes.