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Old 10-20-2008, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Compstall
Not for a Hotcam it ain't.
Haaaaaaaa.... if you want it to run to it full potential

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Preferred, not required.
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If you want it to run good you sure as hell should. Anyone that doesn't tune their car to spec when swapping out the cam is a tard basket. Why do all the work and not have it tuned?? You might not choose to, then again there are a lot of MOMO's out there.
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He said "absolutely mandatory". It's not. I ran mine for over a year on stock tuning, back and forth to work every day no problem.
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Originally Posted by Compstall
He said "absolutely mandatory". It's not. I ran mine for over a year on stock tuning, back and forth to work every day no problem.
I ran my old cc503 untuned for awhile because of money and it ran but a tune is pretty mandatory to get things straight. Its just dumb to run a cam and not tune it, kinda common sense. Perhaps I should have specified mandatory for maximum drivability/performance but if you want to get **** about it and say preferred and not required then technically you are correct but its just plain dumb to cam a car and not tune it. Even stock cars benefit from a tune.

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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
I ran my old cc503 untuned for awhile because of money and it ran but a tune is pretty mandatory to get things straight. Its just dumb to run a cam and not tune it, kinda common sense. Perhaps I should have specified mandatory for maximum drivability/performance but if you want to get **** about it and say preferred and not required then technically you are correct but its just plain dumb to cam a car and not tune it. Even stock cars benefit from a tune.
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what can u get out of a tune if ur car is stock like mine, with pacesetter lt's, i deleted cats/rear 02/egr/air, short throw 6 speed, and k&n cai, so what could i get out of that if i got it tuned?
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Originally Posted by camarostripes96
what can u get out of a tune if ur car is stock like mine, with pacesetter lt's, i deleted cats/rear 02/egr/air, short throw 6 speed, and k&n cai, so what could i get out of that if i got it tuned?
A tune can do several things anything ranging from deleting skip shift, desensitizing the knock sensor, tuning for premium octane, turning on the fans etc. etc. Basically a tune is good for .1-.3ish on a stock car and a good 10-15rwhp. Not all the gain is in power however, being able to rev the car higher makes it a little quicker, you can expect better drivability and typically better gas mileage. The LT1's run pig rich from the factory so leaning it out along with boosting the timing and whatnot for premium octane shows pretty decent gains on a stockish car.

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every since i had this car i have always ran premium in it and the guy before me had as well! so how much would tune cost and would it make it sound any different by any chance?
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Originally Posted by camarostripes96
every since i had this car i have always ran premium in it and the guy before me had as well! so how much would tune cost and would it make it sound any different by any chance?
The sound won't change...PCMforless tunes run $175 and I have had great luck with them. The other popular tuner "MadTuner" run $150 for OBD2 cars and $125 for OBD1 but I see your an OBD2. I had a not so good tuning experience with him but most have had good experiences. I'm a big advocate of tuning even bone stock cars I feel its well worth the money. What is nice is that you could get a tune now and pay just $50 for updates in the future if say you added a cam, or changed the gears, etc. etc.
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yeh my buddy has a 91 camaro he is building with 400 smallblock , its a race car, and he wants to just back my car up to his and just swap out the whole rear axle with each other cause he wants 3.42's which i have and he has a 96 trans am rear end and axle under his car with 4.10's so i am debating !!
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no cost just straight up axle for axle
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Its just dumb to run a cam and not tune it, kinda common sense. Perhaps I should have specified mandatory for maximum drivability/performance but if you want to get **** about it and say preferred and not required then technically you are correct but its just plain dumb to cam a car and not tune it. Even stock cars benefit from a tune.
It's also kinda common sense that the Hotcam isn't radical enough to require a tune. Just dumb I tell you.

Yes, you should have specified. Yes I'm getting technical about it because that's what this site is all about and damn right I'm correct.

Yes cars benefit from a tune. Yes there is power to be gained from a tune with a Hotcam.
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
If you want it to run good you sure as hell should. Anyone that doesn't tune their car to spec when swapping out the cam is a tard basket. Why do all the work and not have it tuned?? You might not choose to, then again there are a lot of MOMO's out there.

Yup, you know how many people out there will spend Thousands of dollars on their motors and not want to tune or bitch about spending a few hundred dollars on a tune. They always want the tune for free..Back when Nitro Dave had his shop we had a Dyno tune special for $300.00 and people still complained!! They don't realize the dyno cost $25,000, software $10,000, overhead ect...Some would say, My car starts, it doesn't need tuning...........
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Damn if there was a dynotune to be had for $300 I'd be ecstatic.
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Originally Posted by camar0corey
Damn if there was a dynotune to be had for $300 I'd be ecstatic.
That makes two of us
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Originally Posted by Compstall
It's also kinda common sense that the Hotcam isn't radical enough to require a tune. Just dumb I tell you.
Now thats just a dumb statement.

Edit: Its really not common sense that the hotcam doesn't need a tune its common sense to tune a cammed car in general. Again in your defense you keep saying not "require" but recommended but...Not tuning a cammed car is like railing a dude and enjoying it....just ain't right.

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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Now thats just a dumb statement.
Some of the tools on here I tell ya
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thats what u would call a monkey wrench elliott !! lol
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Now thats just a dumb statement.

Edit: Its really not common sense that the hotcam doesn't need a tune its common sense to tune a cammed car in general. Again in your defense you keep saying not "require" but recommended but...Not tuning a cammed car is like railing a dude and enjoying it....just ain't right.
alright stealth you are always nice about your responses as Elliot said,
but i think this is the time to lay it down.


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