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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Getting headers for the 95 Z and I was wondering if I should go LT's or shorties. I heard that LT's are a pain in the *** to put on and you also need an aftermarket Y-pipe. I heard that shorties are easier to install and you can use the stock y-pipe but they dont give as good sound quality? So any opinions would be great! Thanks!
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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LTs were really not a whole lot more difficult than shorties to install.
Just get the car high and high on some medium jackstands (not the tiny 3ton ones that wobble when you get up above 12")

The performance difference between LTs and shorties is huge.
Once I put mine one, I couldn't believe I ever wasted my time with mids.

Stock Y pipe is not going to me much use with LTs, you need to order one or have one fabbed up to mate with your catback.
Which is good, because you want that nice 3" pipe all the way.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Just get LTs and be done with it! I suggest LPPs if your not worried about emissions
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Shorties would be a waste of $$$ go with long tubes
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Long tubes rule!! Just dont choke
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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LT's all day long
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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taking your old stuff out is harder than putting longtubes in. just go LTs man. dont think twice! yeah its a bitch to install them... but with help from friends... its much easier. and the results...
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Longtubes, but set money aside to get the exhaust refixed.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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ok LT's it is, whats the main recommended one? and what y pipe could i get to fit it?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 FiReBiRd
ok LT's it is, whats the main recommended one? and what y pipe could i get to fit it?
Well, from what iv noticed all the rage lately is for the LPP stainless longtubes, LPP also has the matching y-pipe. I have not done much research but thats what everyone is going for.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Pacesetters are a very good choice, ceramic coated with these is a must. They give you the option of an off-road header or you can still run your air and egr Pacesetters have one of the best fitments/ease of install out there
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeHonks
Pacesetters are a very good choice, ceramic coated with these is a must. They give you the option of an off-road header or you can still run your air and egr Pacesetters have one of the best fitments/ease of install out there
Thats what I have, with no Y-pipe. We installed in 30 minutes or so, but we was dropping a new engine in so the old headers were already off.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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dont go shortys, too much work for too little gain. LT's
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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thanks guys, really appreciate it, so where do I find these LPP's?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...1%7C240%3A1318

There aren't many sets left so I would jump on it asap if you are going to go with the LPP's
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are they a limited production? can you only find them on ebay? jus curious
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Originally Posted by 97 FiReBiRd
are they a limited production? can you only find them on ebay? jus curious
The LPP's were a limited production. There may still be some floating around for sale. Pick some up if you find em!!
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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ok so say i cant get my hands on em, whats my best, currently made option? pacesetter coateds?
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Definately Long Tubes..
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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