LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Alright. So even if im in Canada and i will soon have a new job but with minimum wage, I want to do something nice: HAve a Camaro V8. It's a dream I want to achieve.

I looked at 3rd gen, too old.
I looked at 98+, too expensive !

So, here I am.. looking at some 4,500$ 93-96 Camaro.

I want a 6 speed.

I've read that the LS1 is way better, but I don't have 5000$ to swap an engine.

I was thinking about moddin the LT1.

I would like to have some information:
-Is there good performance parts for the LT1, even if the LS1 has way more ?

'Cause I would like to do that first:
Buy the most aggresive cam available.

Then MAYBE..
I/H/E
383 Stroker
Heads
Suggest some good power-making mod for me

That's about it. I don't know if I should go with a 93-96 LT1 and put some money in it.

Please enlighten me. Thanks !
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cr4zYH3aD
Alright. So even if im in Canada and i will soon have a new job but with minimum wage, I want to do something nice: HAve a Camaro V8. It's a dream I want to achieve.

I looked at 3rd gen, too old.
I looked at 98+, too expensive !

So, here I am.. looking at some 4,500$ 93-96 Camaro.

I want a 6 speed.

I've read that the LS1 is way better, but I don't have 5000$ to swap an engine.

I was thinking about moddin the LT1.

I would like to have some information:
-Is there good performance parts for the LT1, even if the LS1 has way more ?

'Cause I would like to do that first:
Buy the most aggresive cam available.

Then MAYBE..
I/H/E
383 Stroker
Heads
Suggest some good power-making mod for me

That's about it. I don't know if I should go with a 93-96 LT1 and put some money in it.

Please enlighten me. Thanks !
Alright, so many things...

First, there are many aftermarket things for a LT1...considering that it only has a few changes from all SBC since the 50's. You can find any mods you'll ever need. Heads, cam, valvetrain, full exhaust, intakes, etc.

Second, yes, the LS1 is superior to the LT1, no one can deny that. But the LT1 has a nice torque curve that gives more low end torque than the LS1, making it more fun to drive than a LS1 in my opinion. Once modded, you can make an LT1 as fast as you want it to be. It has great potential!

Third, you will want to get all of the supporting mods before you get an aggressive cam. That includes cold air intake, headers, & exhaust. Until you start going into huge hp ranges, you won't have to change/alter the throttle body or intake manifold at all.

Once you have the supporting mods and the valve train to handle the cam, then look into get cylinder heads. Heads and cam is where the real power is. Look into either Lloyd Elliot Portworks or Advanced Induction for ported heads and cam packages to make power in the 400+ rwhp.

Lastly, to keep all of that power to the ground, you will have to do some suspension mods like an aftermarket torque arm, lower control arms, sway bars, subframe connectors, springs and shocks, etc.

Don't be weary of getting a LT1 to mod and play with. It will be a great platform to work with. Just be sure to do your research and do everything the right way. This forum should steer you in the right direction.
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ss.slp.ls1,

Thanks you for the long answer.

Why does the LS1 is so superior to the LT1 ?

Meanwhile i've been reading the "budget LS1 swap guide". It suggest a 5.3L instead of a 5.7L. 1500-1800$. But maybe it's better to mod the LT1 ? I don't know !

A real LS1 might worth more than 1500$ tought.

Supercharger are nice and I always wanted one, but if I get an LT1, i want to concentrate on low-end torque and mild but aggressive mod.

Cams, Heads, maybe a 383 stroker kit if it's not too expansive. 383 are torque monster so I guess that the torque curve on an 383 LT1 is pretty nice.

Thanks for you advice. Any ideas how much it would cost to mod it that way ? The base car is already 4,500$ - and it's not a M6 or SS -, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Cr4zYH3aD
ss.slp.ls1,

Thanks you for the long answer.

Why does the LS1 is so superior to the LT1 ?

Meanwhile i've been reading the "budget LS1 swap guide". It suggest a 5.3L instead of a 5.7L. 1500-1800$. But maybe it's better to mod the LT1 ? I don't know !

A real LS1 might worth more than 1500$ tought.

Supercharger are nice and I always wanted one, but if I get an LT1, i want to concentrate on low-end torque and mild but aggressive mod.

Cams, Heads, maybe a 383 stroker kit if it's not too expansive. 383 are torque monster so I guess that the torque curve on an 383 LT1 is pretty nice.

Thanks for you advice. Any ideas how much it would cost to mod it that way ? The base car is already 4,500$ - and it's not a M6 or SS -, unfortunately.
The LS1 is superior in almost every way because of years of R&D. The LS1 was created from the ground up, on a blank page, using everything GM had learned from previous generations of motors.

The 5.3 is called the LM7 if I am not mistaken. I actually have one swapped into my '99 SS (long story...). It is a powerful engine for only 5.3 liters. It will make more power then the LT1 and you can mod the 5.3 in exactly the same way you would mod a LS1; cam, heads, bolt-on's are all interchangeable with the 5.3 and 5.7 LS motors. Plus it is an iron block so it can take abuse from n2o or boost well, if built right.

One thing I will advise against is building a 383 stroker. You mentioned a budget and you will likely run out of money before you can build a 383 optimally. I would suggest you stick with a stock displacement short block for now, you can add heads/cam/bolt-ons and be in the low to mid 400's range with either the LT1 or 5.3. Trust me, you can make either a torque monster, you just have to build it to be one.
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