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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Nittos like a really long burn out to really get them to work right
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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What are the specs of the cadillac cam?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BTC
How much is the Cadillac cam? Does it drive, and sound, like stock?
yes it does.

Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
With headers I'd recommend going with a larger cam.

and he could yes, but there are plenty of people who run the LPE 211-219 cam and others that are similiar in duration that have full bolt-on's including headers.

its all a matter of personal prefference.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by slick1851
Nittos like a really long burn out to really get them to work right
yea i did a huge john force burn out both times and they seemed to hook alot better than they had before.

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What are the specs of the cadillac cam?
212-219 with some decent lift .53x's and .54x's and thats with stock rockers so with 1.6's it goes up even more.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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I think the MPH is low. There are bolt on cars running that kind of MPH. You might need a tune to help wake it up some.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
212-219 with some decent lift .53x's and .54x's and thats with stock rockers so with 1.6's it goes up even more.

Damn, if I had known the specs on this cam when I was looking for small cams I possibly would have gotten it instead of my LPE due to the higher lift!

Small cams are fun!!

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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with a 3200 stall you should be able to cut much better 60foot's last year with my 3200vig, i hit a few 1.69's and consistant 1.7's with the track nice and prepped. I ran a 13.08 with a 1.8 60ft at 102mph with cat-back, stock manifolds, cold air, no cats, slicks and the 3200vig. Seems like your set-up should have more in it with that MPH and get that 60ft down and i see 12.7's preety easy if not better...
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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I trapped 104.5 on a 90* summer day. That was with cai and catback only, on the stock goodyear eagle gsc's. I would say your slightly down on power(could be the converter), but overall not bad at all. 12's is nice congrats!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
I think the MPH is low. There are bolt on cars running that kind of MPH. You might need a tune to help wake it up some.
i have a tune!

and like i said if i were at sea level that would have been a 12.66 with a 106 trap speed. for a stalled auto i'd say thats pretty damn good.
plus i still have the stock TB.

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Damn, if I had known the specs on this cam when I was looking for small cams I possibly would have gotten it instead of my LPE due to the higher lift!

Small cams are fun!!
i agree i like the smaller cams. and yea with my 1.6RR's i have lift numbers of .565 and .576 which are pretty high lifts for a lil baby cam

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with a 3200 stall you should be able to cut much better 60foot's last year with my 3200vig, i hit a few 1.69's and consistant 1.7's with the track nice and prepped. I ran a 13.08 with a 1.8 60ft at 102mph with cat-back, stock manifolds, cold air, no cats, slicks and the 3200vig. Seems like your set-up should have more in it with that MPH and get that 60ft down and i see 12.7's preety easy if not better...
thank you finally someone who agree's, i also think with some practice i should be able to cut a much better 60' and easily pull a 12.7 with a DA damn near 2000 i'd say thats impressive for a bolt-on baby cammed car. and with a stock TB and stock water pump too.

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I trapped 104.5 on a 90* summer day. That was with cai and catback only, on the stock goodyear eagle gsc's. I would say your slightly down on power(could be the converter), but overall not bad at all. 12's is nice congrats!
you are M6, way different man, and whats your DA. mine that night was just a touch under 2000. at Sea level my Trap would be 106. remember stalls tend to soak up a little Trap speed

and for the record, i trapped 104 with just a cat back and intake as well but that was before the converter.
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The stock TB is not holding you back. It doesn't become a restriction until 400whp if I remember correctly. The DA of 2000 explains why your trap speed was low.
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Dude im not knockin your setup, im just sayin the converter could be eatin a few mph on the big end, notice the congrats at the end of my post!!!!!!! Not sure on Da im in northeast indiana, it was 90 out with 100% humidity. Besides that was 8yrs ago, I was just goin back in my head and tryin to compare. Im sure you can get that 60ft down a bit and it will run mid 12's.

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Originally Posted by buzz12586
The stock TB is not holding you back. It doesn't become a restriction until 400whp if I remember correctly. The DA of 2000 explains why your trap speed was low.
thats kinda what i thought too, people just seem to throw DA out of the window when it really does play a big part in track times and trap speeds. i mean hell like i've stated a couple times. my corrected time would have been a 12.66 @ 106. then im sure people would have been surprised and saying great run! i just dont happen to live anywhere with a DA near zero

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Dude im not knockin your setup, im just sayin the converter could be eatin a few mph on the big end, notice the congrats at the end of my post!!!!!!! Not sure on Da im in northeast indiana, it was 90 out with 100% humidity. Besides that was 8yrs ago, I was just goin back in my head and tryin to compare. Im sure you can get that 60ft down a bit and it will run mid 12's.
its all good man, wasnt taking it as a knock, and you are correct the stall will soak up some MPH in turn for having a much better launch. that why i think a little 50 or 75 shot is in my future

and if i could get potentially a 1.7 60' that'd be .4 off my 1/4 mile time using the rule of thumb that every tenth in your 60' dropped is 2 tenths total 1/4 mile time dropped.


thanks for reading everyone and after this coming weekend and some practicing launching i hope to be coming back with a better time for you guys!
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Its hard to tell what your car would run in better DA. Those calculators aren't always the greatest. Just work on getting the 60ft down and you'll be happy.
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
Its hard to tell what your car would run in better DA. Those calculators aren't always the greatest. Just work on getting the 60ft down and you'll be happy.
ohh **** i am already happy man

but i would be alot happier with a mid 12 true true haha!

ill be working my launch out this coming weekend and hope to come back with at least a 12.7.

and yea i know those calculators arent the best, but hey its an estimate. i guess ill just have to travel to one of these tracks that have some negative DA's or near zero
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