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head and cam work

Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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I have a 96 camaro and i wan to get the heads done and get a cam any advice on what to get done and size cam. It is a daily driver but i am looking to get close to 500 RWHP
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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An N/A car at 500rwhp is going to need a Solid Roller cam.
I'm not sure what your idea of a DD is, but you can if you want to.

A more reasonable way to hit that number on pump gas with a Hydraulic Cam
would be to do a typical H/C combo from LE and AI and throw a 125 shot on top of it.
(Both companies can provide either Solid or Hydraulic roller options)
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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hit the nail on the head x2^
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Ya.. you lookin at around 400rwhp after all your bolt ons and H/C, then after the 125 shot it should be more than enough....
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Don't get focused on rwhp numbers...What are your goals for the car? Street? Strip? a mix of both? I only make 375 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno...My track numbers would suggest otherwise...

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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Everyone is getting way too casual about making big numbers and the newbs are getting downright delusional in their expectations.

One company has proven time and again to be able to deliver 500rwhp NA BUT it requires a LOT of modification besides the engine, requires a FULL engine build with QUALITY parts and MACHINING and still wont be daily driver material.

It certainly is possible to do 440rwhp reliably through the auto and be daily driver material, again though looking at a full QUALITY engine build and using one particular company for the topend.

Soon as you think you can save money by using something "just as good" you are going to start hurting the outcome.

With a good heads and cam setup and a well setup car you should be able to get 400rwhp and yeah you could go over 500 by putting juice too it and while it might work out you also might blow up the engine.
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Originally Posted by ABA383
Don't get focused on rwhp numbers...What are your goals for the car? Street? Strip? a mix of both? I only make 375 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno...My track numbers would suggest otherwise...

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I seriously everytime i see ABA383's 1320 times. His car is a model for what i'd like mine to do in the future, got a long way to go, but the rebuild with the forged 383 should be within a month

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Everyone is getting way too casual about making big numbers and the newbs are getting downright delusional in their expectations.

One company has proven time and again to be able to deliver 500rwhp NA BUT it requires a LOT of modification besides the engine, requires a FULL engine build with QUALITY parts and MACHINING and still wont be daily driver material.

It certainly is possible to do 440rwhp reliably through the auto and be daily driver material, again though looking at a full QUALITY engine build and using one particular company for the topend.

Soon as you think you can save money by using something "just as good" you are going to start hurting the outcome.

With a good heads and cam setup and a well setup car you should be able to get 400rwhp and yeah you could go over 500 by putting juice too it and while it might work out you also might blow up the engine.



hahahahahaha 96capricemgr you always make me laugh
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ABA383
Don't get focused on rwhp numbers...What are your goals for the car? Street? Strip? a mix of both? I only make 375 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno...My track numbers would suggest otherwise...

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where'd you get your rear wheels man? i like 'em
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Those are prostars
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Whats your budget>
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If you want 500 rwhp you better plan on spending some dough. You're going to need a shortblock that can handle that not to mention some bigtime heads and cam. It's possible but look around...very few cars are doing that without nitrous.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
An N/A car at 500rwhp is going to need a Solid Roller cam.
I'm not sure what your idea of a DD is, but you can if you want to.

A more reasonable way to hit that number on pump gas with a Hydraulic Cam
would be to do a typical H/C combo from LE and AI and throw a 125 shot on top of it.
(Both companies can provide either Solid or Hydraulic roller options)
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Originally Posted by nik1703
where'd you get your rear wheels man? i like 'em
Like AC said they are Pro Stars...15x10 with 7.5" backspacing...Fronts are Greg Welds...

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[QUOTE=PNYKLR-TA;11516147]I seriously everytime i see ABA383's 1320 times. His car is a model for what i'd like mine to do in the future, got a long way to go, but the rebuild with the forged 383 should be within a month

Thanks man! There's 10s in that thing once I get it out harder...

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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Many of us use the 18% drive-line loss figure when converting dyno power to rear wheel power.

So using that figure, in order to make 500 HP at the rear wheels you'd need to make right at 610 HP at the crank.

As a streetable daily driver your expectation is over the top. Drop your expectaions by 100 HP and you'll be in the ball-park.

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Just remember that the term streetable is subjective.
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