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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Some say that 1KPA loss is equal to 1% power loss. Clearly there is some loss in the twisty intake chute.

Here is the thread with my testing and findings:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-diagnose.html
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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cool. i love the ram air setup. Here's my obligatory picture whoring of my own engine bay. good luck to those who want one. they are pricey and rare. i saw one at the T/A nats that had no gasket and a broken corner and it sold for $100. the same guy had a nicer box at home and he sold it to the guy who bought the crappy one for $200 as well. I got really lucky on mine and got the box which only needed to have some dbl sided tape applied to a couple small parts of the gasket (primarily the front part) and a K&N filter, along with the MAF to TB bellow, all for $115 shipped. that bellow from GM is $160 alone

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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On a dyno it prob would only make a slight difference. With a sealed factory set up at say about 100 mph the ram starts to take effect. Wich in my case means the last 20mph in the 1/4, im actually getting Ram Air gains!!. Not to mention the straight path helps a ton and even on a hot day the filter feels cool to the touch after a nice run.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Kind of funny how GM went back to the elbow on the 2010 SS.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
Kind of funny how GM went back to the elbow on the 2010 SS.
They probably know that ram air is more cosmetic than anything.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wrd1972
Kind of funny how GM went back to the elbow on the 2010 SS.
It will hit the aftermaket asap.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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if nothing else, its easier to get off quickly....
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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if nothing else, its easier to get off quickly....
tell me about it, now i dont have to get under the car and take off all those bolts. now its just 4 ***** and its off
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Originally Posted by shbox
They probably know that ram air is more cosmetic than anything.
i still think on LT1s it is the most effective setup. at least with the 5th gens they made the elbow have a direct path
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
i still think on LT1s it is the most effective setup. at least with the 5th gens they made the elbow have a direct path
yeah i was gonna say something like that. on an LT1 ram air is a major improvement over the 90 degree intake. on an LS1 it probably isn't as noticeable, especially because the airbox doesn't seal to the hood like it does on the LT1.
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tell me about it, now i dont have to get under the car and take off all those bolts. now its just 4 ***** and its off
what bolts? i don't remember taking off a bunch of bolts to get my stock airbox off. it just came right out. i did have to break some attatchment clips to get my air silencer out. i just left the thing in the fender that the airbox used to attatch to and got one of those plates for the lower part. I think i actually mounted the headlight module sideways but oh well. it's held down with tape.

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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what bolts? i don't remember taking off a bunch of bolts to get my stock airbox off. it just came right out. i did have to break some attatchment clips to get my air silencer out. i just left the thing in the fender that the airbox used to attatch to and got one of those plates for the lower part. I think i actually mounted the headlight module sideways but oh well. it's held down with tape.

to get access to a CAI filter, you had to take off the panel under tae car to get to the filter. thats 7 bolts, then you had to attach the neck of the filter which sucked because the fit was so tight. i like now that i can take off my airbox normally

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
to get access to a CAI filter, you had to take off the panel under tae car to get to the filter. thats 7 bolts, then you had to attach the neck of the filter which sucked because the fit was so tight. i like now that i can take off my airbox normally
oh ok. i never had a CAI on my car, just a stock airbox w/ a K&N filter. i don't think i've ever taken off that access panel under the bumper. i once changed a turn signal bulb the hard way (sliding my hand into the tight space down there) because i didn't know the access panel existed, lol. I did pull down the middle section with the 3 clips to change the foglight bulbs but i have never removed one of the side panels
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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I have the suncoast setup with the k&n filter. that thing hisses like no other. it can be heard over my full exhaust at idle. what gives? lol
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Mine sounds like a jet engine sucking air. Its awesome!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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did you modify the air opening on the underside of the trufiber hood to make
it fit the air box ? from what i see in the pics of the hood at the trufiber
site is a small air slot cut out behind the air nostrills.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I've had a 96' flat hood M6 Trans Am. Sold it to buy a 96' M6 WS6 and it did have a nice "suck" sound through the hood (mostly heard it immediatley after I shut the car off). Now I have a true "ram air" car, aka "procharger". You hear that thing sucken air like a kirby vacuum cleaner.

I have the air box with a K&N for sale. PM me offers for it.
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Originally Posted by formula vincent
did you modify the air opening on the underside of the trufiber hood to make
it fit the air box ? from what i see in the pics of the hood at the trufiber
site is a small air slot cut out behind the air nostrills.
no modification was done or needed for that matter
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Mine is a ws6 so I have the awesomeness of OEM ram air... hitman why is your airbox all gutted without the little shades like 1995tas and mine? does that really "help"? :O
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Mine is a ws6 so I have the awesomeness of OEM ram air... hitman why is your airbox all gutted without the little shades like 1995tas and mine? does that really "help"? :O
no clue if it helps or not, all the fins are gone now. the previous owner did that to the airbox, i just finished it
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