Please help me with a direction for my car
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Please help me with a direction for my car Hey guys, Name is Jeremy and my 94 Z28 was my first car and now have the money and time to really make her what I want. Lets just say I have a stock car for planning purposes. This is going to be a weekend/show car so I really dont care about drivability but want it to sound great and perform greater. Goal is mid-low 11 ET's. Money is not a factor as I will be building my dream car and know this will not be an overnight thing. I am not concerned about trans/rearend options at the moment as that will come in due time. Any suggestions as to what I should put under my hood? 355, 383, with or w/o blower? I have done some internal work in the past on a couple engines and am a mechanic by trade, so I want to do everything that I can myself. Anything I should really leave to the Pros? The engine was removed tonight and is currently on a stand waiting for the love as soon as I figure out what'll be best for her. Also I am going to be cleaning up the engine bay so will be relocating Alternator. I was wanting to delete ABS, A/C and was thinking about putting in a manual steering rack. Any of this sound stupid for just a weekend car?
Thanks a lot in advance.
P.S. Live South of Baltimore and interested to meet some other local guys and curious about what will I need to do to "bypass" the emission requirements to build my car
Thanks a lot in advance.
P.S. Live South of Baltimore and interested to meet some other local guys and curious about what will I need to do to "bypass" the emission requirements to build my car
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baltimore huh..im just north of there in towson :p
1994 cars are OBD1..since in maryland cars that aren't OBD2 need to run sniffer, well, you might wanna keep emissions unless you think you can just write it off to them that you 'did a bunch of expensive repairs and it still wont pass' or pay the guy to pass you lol. in obd2 you can just tune the codes out and since they just plug in the scanner then you are good.
doesnt sound stupid at all if its a weekend car. i'd keep ac and other stuff honestly, but to each their own.
how nasty do you want it to be? is the engine fresh or do you think it needs to be rebuilt? 355 is always a good choice and doesnt cost too much.
1994 cars are OBD1..since in maryland cars that aren't OBD2 need to run sniffer, well, you might wanna keep emissions unless you think you can just write it off to them that you 'did a bunch of expensive repairs and it still wont pass' or pay the guy to pass you lol. in obd2 you can just tune the codes out and since they just plug in the scanner then you are good.
doesnt sound stupid at all if its a weekend car. i'd keep ac and other stuff honestly, but to each their own.
how nasty do you want it to be? is the engine fresh or do you think it needs to be rebuilt? 355 is always a good choice and doesnt cost too much.
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^ I said money is not an issue BUT still want to be reasonable.... no turbo'd 400+cid or anything of the sort. Something with original "worked" block, If power adder I would want either a blower or Nos (I already have a turbo car). Like it to have the power to pull wheels 
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Trippenholyman: Can I get a 383 emissions legal? Ive heard about being to low to cross the rollers and being waived. This worked for me in my airbagged truck when I showed up with the frame dragging but has this worked for an fbody? And the bottom end will be coming out and thats where im having the problem...what do I put back in it?
thanks guys
.Trippenholyman: Can I get a 383 emissions legal? Ive heard about being to low to cross the rollers and being waived. This worked for me in my airbagged truck when I showed up with the frame dragging but has this worked for an fbody? And the bottom end will be coming out and thats where im having the problem...what do I put back in it?
thanks guys
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I am starting to lean towards the 355 with the occasional shot of Nos. When re-doing the internals, should I go Fully forged or keep stock crank? I was looking at the Advanced Induction rotating kits and was wondering if I would want the regular or pro series? Then get the h/c from LE. Thanks
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Go 383 with nitrous. Mines a beast and i love it! No nitrous yet but it's in the plans. Def get a built tranny and a 9 inch rear or 12 bolt. I wouldn't go 355 unless your looking at a budget build which u already said money isn't a issue. So go all out!
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budget budget budget.....in my original post I said I was trying to to build a fun car with either a 355 or 383 w or w/o blower. I know with a car the sky is the limit but Im just talking about the engine. Why does the budget matter when giving opinions about a power plant. Aside from displacement its either fully forged or partially, or not, which is really where the difference in money is. I know that for the power I want, Ill need th350-400 9in or 12 bolt etc etc. After more research, now Im leaning more towards the 383 because of the difference in torque in the power band. I think this will result in making the car more fun to drive from stoplight to stoplight. Prob put a bottle on it just for the occasional need for speed fix. Thanks for the help guys
P.S. Prob going to get the bottom from A.I and the Top end from LE....Make for a good combo?
P.S. Prob going to get the bottom from A.I and the Top end from LE....Make for a good combo?
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AI and LE both make great products. Definitely go will all forged rotating assembly, you don't want to line up against a civic and get roasted because you broke the crank/threw a rod, etc. A good built 383 will put you easily in the 11's and with a little more planning, in the 10's. At the very least you'll need a higher stall converter, and then replace everything as you break it. Make no mistake, if you run a built motor on a stock trans, rear, etc...things are going to break.
how the **** does the budget not matter? I set a pretty high budget for my build, it changed the cubes I went with, it changed the heads, it changed my nitrous and intake manifold plans. All that made me switch to 28" et streets, a 9," mcleod bellhousing, gear swap, etc. now i'm saving for a CM 10 pt. Now I'm like 17k into my 15k budget, with plans to spend about 5k more in the next year. Maybe because I'm 22 and don't have unlimited finances these things matter, but then again... you're a noob who doesn't have a clue.
hm i feel like being an *** today... but its since its not that hard, I'll help you figure it out for yourself. these are some questions you should ask yourself...
How fast do you want to go?
How much power will it take to get there at your weight?
What heads do I need to satisfy my power requirement?
Will my budget allow for those heads, and if not, what sacrifices can I make in my build to afford them?
if you don't know an answer, use the damn search button
How fast do you want to go?
How much power will it take to get there at your weight?
What heads do I need to satisfy my power requirement?
Will my budget allow for those heads, and if not, what sacrifices can I make in my build to afford them?
if you don't know an answer, use the damn search button
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Everyone gets you are trying to build a fun car. But if you are looking for help, or suggestions you may want to answer the budget question. These guys on here are here to help if you give even a random price range who cares if it's over or under your actual budget you will get the answers you are looking for.
Just my .02
Just my .02
that sums it up. you can save money or blow it on over engineered parts. your hp and/or et goals will define your build and parts list.
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haha wicked94z sounds like some punk *** 22yr old....BITCH you have no ******* clue who I am or what Ive done. My budget is 100gs for a rotating assembly...There, theres my budget. Didnt know I could spend that much on a bottom end for a stock block did ya. Guess I didnt word my question well enough but have heard enough to continue doing things my way and not getting advice from kids.
THANKS to the other guys that have the maturity to try to answer my question or at least not answer and not be a dick
THANKS to the other guys that have the maturity to try to answer my question or at least not answer and not be a dick
Like it or not wicked was right. Even if youre budget is unlimited, you never stated that, so who is going to know.
And furthermore, you wont get very far on here by bashing the young people. Young people are by far the majority of lt1 owners. That doesnt mean we dont have a passion for it and obviously people like wicked94 have done a lot more in the lt world than you even know how to talk about.
He's right about searching. The best way for you to be successful with your build is to find well-performing, proven combos and emulate them. Not by coming on here and asking us dumbass "kids" as you put it for advice.
Ironically the very people who could help you will be turned off by youre attitude and not reply, so all you really will have is "dumbass kids" trying to help you. ROTFL
And for the record youre the one who sounds like a dumbass kid with the way you ask youre questions and getting all flustered and defensive when someone cant understand wtf youre asking because you dont even know what to ask yourself because you havent done any RESEARCH.
Its laughable to think you could just log onto an internet forum, post 1 thread and BAM! Youre whole build is planned out. Did you expect someone to just give you a list of parts to buy or something? And a cookie?
The people on here with badass builds do their own research, learn what questions to ask, and execute that info when putting a combo together. And most importantly they TALK to people (in real life) like Lloyd Elliott, Ron and Phil at A I, Tony Mamo, Callies, Compstar, Lunati, Nitrous Outlet, etc etc etc. They dont jump on some internet forum and start ordering parts based on the recommendation of some "dumbass kids".
While you're at it maybe you should apologize for being a welp if you plan on being part of this community and ever plan on having anyone help you out in the future.
And furthermore, you wont get very far on here by bashing the young people. Young people are by far the majority of lt1 owners. That doesnt mean we dont have a passion for it and obviously people like wicked94 have done a lot more in the lt world than you even know how to talk about.
He's right about searching. The best way for you to be successful with your build is to find well-performing, proven combos and emulate them. Not by coming on here and asking us dumbass "kids" as you put it for advice.
Ironically the very people who could help you will be turned off by youre attitude and not reply, so all you really will have is "dumbass kids" trying to help you. ROTFL
And for the record youre the one who sounds like a dumbass kid with the way you ask youre questions and getting all flustered and defensive when someone cant understand wtf youre asking because you dont even know what to ask yourself because you havent done any RESEARCH.
Its laughable to think you could just log onto an internet forum, post 1 thread and BAM! Youre whole build is planned out. Did you expect someone to just give you a list of parts to buy or something? And a cookie?
The people on here with badass builds do their own research, learn what questions to ask, and execute that info when putting a combo together. And most importantly they TALK to people (in real life) like Lloyd Elliott, Ron and Phil at A I, Tony Mamo, Callies, Compstar, Lunati, Nitrous Outlet, etc etc etc. They dont jump on some internet forum and start ordering parts based on the recommendation of some "dumbass kids".
While you're at it maybe you should apologize for being a welp if you plan on being part of this community and ever plan on having anyone help you out in the future.
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You know what Greg, thanks! You are entirely correct and I am sorry to everyone for overreacting. Well put btw. I will humbly back off and do more research an re ask my question. To me, in my head, what I asked didn't seem that difficult but I guess it was. Sorry for starting ****.
I will probably go with a fully forged 383 bottom end from AI and a complimenting h/c from LE. My goal is low 11's a couple hundred pounds lighter than stock.
I will probably go with a fully forged 383 bottom end from AI and a complimenting h/c from LE. My goal is low 11's a couple hundred pounds lighter than stock.