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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Default Cam only now. Heads or nitrous next?

So, I just sold my wet nitrous kit and am thinking about staying n/a. My car makes 359/348 with some boltons and cam. I wanted to just throw a 100 shot at it but now I'm leaning toward just finishing up the motor n/a since I have about 15k on the motor since rebuild.
On the other side, I wouldn't mind just running the motor on spray until it dies so I can do a larger cube rebuild on it.

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1. Would you recommend le2, AI or Edelbrock heads? (I've had the le2 heads/cam on an old car of mine so I have experience with them).

2. Would you just throw the nitrous on?

3. Would a retune be required with the heads flowing more air?

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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le2 heads. Than once you get bored with 400-425rw than throw your 100 shot at it. Yes you would want to dyno tune it for the most hp.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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LE2's.... I personally would do TFS 21* and do my own port work.....
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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AI 200ccs AND nitrous.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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You said you have had the LE 2's so you already know what there capable of doing. If you had the right set up
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by djjab57
You said you have had the LE 2's so you already know what there capable of doing. If you had the right set up
I also know they are stock casting ported heads. If I could get AI or Edelbrock heads for $500 less and they perform the same I might do that instead. (not saying they are or aren't similar in performance.)
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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AI heads are more and they are stock ported heads, Ive never heard one positive thing about the Edelbrocks
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by djjab57
AI heads are more and they are stock ported heads, Ive never heard one positive thing about the Edelbrocks
Heard anything about the Patriot heads?
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Heads are the way to go to unlock the power and nitrous just enhances it very nicely
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sworaz
Heard anything about the Patriot heads?
Patriots are Chinese junk. Stick with AI or LE.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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i ran patriot stage 2 243's and i loved em
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Originally Posted by j_dover
i ran patriot stage 2 243's and i loved em
What kind of power did you make with them?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Heads first
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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send the heads to AI, and then have fun with the spray
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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I wish I could do both but that'd be more than I want to spend.

I'm really leaning toward nitrous. What am I going to be able to do with 400 hp that I can't do with 360?...very little. I only go to the track once a year so I don't care too much about track times. (I say 360 because I should be able to get my 1hp out of the ewp i'm putting on lol)

Besides, I'd pay 1,300 for the heads and 550 for a new dyno tune (1,850 total). Nitrous would cost me 650 complete with everything I need.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sworaz
I wish I could do both but that'd be more than I want to spend.

I'm really leaning toward nitrous. What am I going to be able to do with 400 hp that I can't do with 360?...very little. I only go to the track once a year so I don't care too much about track times. (I say 360 because I should be able to get my 1hp out of the ewp i'm putting on lol)

Besides, I'd pay 1,300 for the heads and 550 for a new dyno tune (1,850 total). Nitrous would cost me 650 complete with everything I need.
Does the $650 include things like a window switch, msd or mallory box, colder plugs, mount for the bottle, bottle warmer, blow down tube so your NHRA legal etc. etc?

I don't know why your thinking you don't need a dyno tune for nitrous??? Add $550 to the nitrous and you get $1200.

Nitrous may sound like the cheaper alternative at first but when you fill your 10lb. bottle once a week or every couple weeks at $40-50 a pop it starts to add up very quickly.

I vote to send your stock heads off to Ai to compliment your cam nicely and give you a setup capable of trapping around 120mph. Then save your money and do the nitrous later on.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Does the $650 include things like a window switch, msd or mallory box, colder plugs, mount for the bottle, bottle warmer, blow down tube so your NHRA legal etc. etc?

I don't know why your thinking you don't need a dyno tune for nitrous??? Add $550 to the nitrous and you get $1200.

Nitrous may sound like the cheaper alternative at first but when you fill your 10lb. bottle once a week or every couple weeks at $40-50 a pop it starts to add up very quickly.

I vote to send your stock heads off to Ai to compliment your cam nicely and give you a setup capable of trapping around 120mph. Then save your money and do the nitrous later on.
This isn't my first rodeo amigo. I've had both H/C/nitrous lt1's and ls1's. I've had supercharged and turbo'd ls1's..I'm very certain of what I will need.

The 650 is including everything I will need to run it correctly. Plugs, timing (through interface, msd or mallory hyfire) and window switch, warmer and blow down tube. I won't need the window switch with the mallory though since they have them built in.

If you want to educate noobs maybe go to the new member section of the forum.

*edit, maybe you should search on tuning and nitrous. With a wet kit and the correct fueling jets as well as a way to pull timing no dyno tune is required. With a dry kit from HSW, you have the interface that will add fuel and pull timing so no dyno tune needed there either.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sworaz
This isn't my first rodeo amigo. I've had both H/C/nitrous lt1's and ls1's. I've had supercharged and turbo'd ls1's..I'm very certain of what I will need.

The 650 is including everything I will need to run it correctly. Plugs, timing (through interface, msd or mallory hyfire) and window switch, warmer and blow down tube. I won't need the window switch with the mallory though since they have them built in.

If you want to educate noobs maybe go to the new member section of the forum.

*edit, maybe you should search on tuning and nitrous. With a wet kit and the correct fueling jets as well as a way to pull timing no dyno tune is required. With a dry kit from HSW, you have the interface that will add fuel and pull timing so no dyno tune needed there either.
Whoa there buddy no need to be harsh I was just trying to help.

Obviously the $650 isn't including the price of a new kit, msd, mallory box or interface controller, etc. etc., I assumed you needed to go out and buy everything in which case it would be alot more than $650 obviously.

Anyways, maybe personal preference but if I'm putting nitrous on the car I want that thing on the dyno to make sure everything checks out well. I actually use to live right by HSW's shop before they moved and learned a thing or two about nitrous from those guys. I was in your boat but I went the heads route instead of spray with plans to spray the car at a later time.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Whoa there buddy no need to be harsh I was just trying to help.

Obviously the $650 isn't including the price of a new kit, msd or mallory box, interface controller, etc. etc., I assumed you needed to go out and buy everything in which case it would be alot more than $650 obviously.

Anyways, maybe personal preference but if I'm putting nitrous on the car I want that thing on the dyno to make sure everything checks out well. I actually use to live right by HSW's shop before they moved and learned a thing or two about nitrous from those guys.
No problem man. Thanks for the opinions.

I do actually have a stockpile of nitrous parts already so some stuff I don't need to buy.
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Originally Posted by sworaz
No problem man. Thanks for the opinions.

I do actually have a stockpile of nitrous parts already so some stuff I don't need to buy.
Ok that makes alot more sense now lol.

With that taken into consideration I would personally spray the car instead of doing heads.
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