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Wtf Le2 heads installed and failure!

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Old 04-29-2010, 07:17 AM
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Sorry I dont have any suggestion from what already has been said BUT I have to ask, are you running a AI cam and LE heads? Im not trying to be an *** or hatin just wondering!

edit: maybe thats why you are getting problems, the LE heads doesent like the AI cam! lol J/K, gl man.

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Old 04-29-2010, 08:22 AM
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Are you still using the same length pushrods? I saw that the heads were milled.
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My guess is a lash problem. Lifters weren't soaked and i'm guessing you didn't prime the engine? You set the lash with the lifters bottom'd out and when the car started the first time it pressurized everything and all of a sudden your lash got real tight real quick. I would loosen it all up and set the lash again.
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my vote is for pushrods being too long and the rockers being too tight..
Old 04-29-2010, 11:26 AM
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Pushrods being too long wouldn't cause a no start, it would just wear out his guides. After he gets it started again he can check wear pattern and replace if necessary.
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The pushrods are the correct length. Rockers are SA.
Old 04-29-2010, 11:33 AM
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i would reset the valve lash. 1/4-1/2 past zero is as much as I'd go with it. Reference Shbox.com for good information. Its easiest to use the 2nd method- engine not running.
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My guess is the valve lash is to tight. Could just be one or 2 that are off.
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the lifters do not need to be pumped up to set valve lash
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Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA
the lifters do not need to be pumped up to set valve lash
This is true.
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Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA
the lifters do not need to be pumped up to set valve lash
Why is that? You set them right out of the box with a little friction and that's it? I always prime and set them.
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if you set the preload correctly on the rockers you will watch the cup and as soon as it starts going down you are just past "0" lash, then give them a 1/2 or 1/4 turn from that, this is of cource with the cams back side .
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If there are lifters that aren't pumped up; could I keep the rockers very loose, like two revolutions to give the valves ample room to open? Then I could adjust them all after it's running. If there are lifters not pumped up, it seems to me that it would be impossible to set zero lash correctly...
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[QUOTE=sworaz;13256431].
After turning it over trying to start it I would notice light smoke coming from the engine bay (couldn't locate where exactly it was coming from).

Did you check your ground wires? My buddy had this problem and the ground strap got so hot it melted his throttle cable.
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to properly set lash you are barely compressing the spring, they do not need to be pumped up

but...another good way to adjust your lash is the engine running method, and if you have any doubts you can do it this way. loosen them all up and start it up, then tighten just until it stops making noise and then go 1/4 or 1/2 or whatever you are setting your lash to

if you are going to do it this way i recommend you cut a peice of cardboard the length of the head and about 6 inches wide to stick straight up and down in the head on the outside so it blocks some of the oil from going everywhere and getting on your headers

does it still make the noise with the covers off though, try to get a friend to crank while you are under the hood to see if you can figure out what it is while it is making the noise
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So all you changed were just the heads? Anything else?

I low battery in itself will cause it not to start. Had that problem on my friends 95 Z28. It may be a combination of the low battery and the valves being to tight
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Originally Posted by dangalla
to properly set lash you are barely compressing the spring, they do not need to be pumped up

but...another good way to adjust your lash is the engine running method, and if you have any doubts you can do it this way. loosen them all up and start it up, then tighten just until it stops making noise and then go 1/4 or 1/2 or whatever you are setting your lash to

if you are going to do it this way i recommend you cut a peice of cardboard the length of the head and about 6 inches wide to stick straight up and down in the head on the outside so it blocks some of the oil from going everywhere and getting on your headers

does it still make the noise with the covers off though, try to get a friend to crank while you are under the hood to see if you can figure out what it is while it is making the noise
I am about to try this. We'll see how it goes.
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Update: Put the new battery in and it fired right up. The rockers were all over the place, some way too tight and other wayyy to loose. Adjusted them the best I could before the smoke from my headers forced me out of the garage.
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Good to hear! Glad you got it figure out, go drive that thing now!
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sound clip or video first though!


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