Manual steering rack options
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Manual steering rack options What is out there besides BMR and Madman. What can be bolted in with little or no mods. Only thread I see mention something said S10 but only ones I have seen have power racks, so what year is best to look at/other cars?
Very interested in a manual conversion but cannot justify 600+ bills for it at least right now that is.
Very interested in a manual conversion but cannot justify 600+ bills for it at least right now that is.
I had a tubular k member set up for a stock rack. I simply cut off the stock mounts and used 3/4'' .058 wall chromoly welded to the bottom of the k member for mounts. The pinto rack comes with the black bushing you see and they will slide right onto the 3/4'' tubeing. I used a large washer with 3/4'' hole welded to the tube as a stop for the rack to butt up against then a 5/8'' bolt through front to back. I made triangular support brackets to connect the outside of each tube to the kmember and a peice of 3/4'' tube between the two for support
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Very interested in this, looks pretty simple. Should be able to mock it into place and have it welded for pretty cheap. I'm not a welder by any means but it looks like it would be easy to get fabbed up and just have someone weld it.
Assuming you went with this and ditched the ac as well what would you do for a belt running just the alternator?
Assuming you went with this and ditched the ac as well what would you do for a belt running just the alternator?
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Did anyone read why it isn't so good to use a stock Pinto rack on an F-body? BMR's site explains that the pivot points on the tie rod ends on the rack do not match with the pivot points on the a-arms which gives you bump steer. Another site also claimed a pinto rack wasn't designed to work under the higher weight of our F-bodies, which can lead to over-stressing the Pinto rack.
Are both of these items just claims by manufacturers to stop people from making their own manual steering setups? I don't know, but the explainations sound good to me. I guess both points are voided if you are talking about a lightweight strip only car as well.
Are both of these items just claims by manufacturers to stop people from making their own manual steering setups? I don't know, but the explainations sound good to me. I guess both points are voided if you are talking about a lightweight strip only car as well.
the differnet pivot points is corrected by a bumpsteet kit, all the sponsors kits use pinto racks with different pivot points they sell a bumpsteer kit with it to correct that. I made that also. see the hex stock on the tie rods, 5/8 rod ends, and aluminum spacers at the spindle. that corrects it, you want the tie rods to move on the same arc as the A-arms during compression and extension. the weight thing ive never heard as many shps just sell their own re worked pinto racks
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Did anyone read why it isn't so good to use a stock Pinto rack on an F-body? BMR's site explains that the pivot points on the tie rod ends on the rack do not match with the pivot points on the a-arms which gives you bump steer. Another site also claimed a pinto rack wasn't designed to work under the higher weight of our F-bodies, which can lead to over-stressing the Pinto rack.
Are both of these items just claims by manufacturers to stop people from making their own manual steering setups? I don't know, but the explainations sound good to me. I guess both points are voided if you are talking about a lightweight strip only car as well.
Are both of these items just claims by manufacturers to stop people from making their own manual steering setups? I don't know, but the explainations sound good to me. I guess both points are voided if you are talking about a lightweight strip only car as well.
I'm interested in this too. What rack is everyone else using? I have a tubular rack right now. I'm pretty sure it is setup for power steering right now though. Can I used it as a manual? Just plug off the holes? Thanks guys, and sorry OP. Just looking for some info too.
You can do this ^^^ but the point of going to a manual rack is that the gearing inside of the manual gear box is geared differently to help assist with the steering of the car without the hydrolic assist of the power steering pump. Hope this clears stuff up a little more for you.
Thanks for the recommendation
We have refined our rack over the years by modifying the actual rack width itself to help with bump steer issues and moving the steering shaft over towards the frame rails to provide the most header room possible.
We offer both kits for our Pinto rack style K-member or a K-member that already has the existing factory rack mounts.
Our kit is a true bolt-on no welding required or guessing on steering shaft alignment.
Thanks for the recommendation
We have refined our rack over the years by modifying the actual rack width itself to help with bump steer issues and moving the steering shaft over towards the frame rails to provide the most header room possible.
We offer both kits for our Pinto rack style K-member or a K-member that already has the existing factory rack mounts.
Our kit is a true bolt-on no welding required or guessing on steering shaft alignment.
We have refined our rack over the years by modifying the actual rack width itself to help with bump steer issues and moving the steering shaft over towards the frame rails to provide the most header room possible.
We offer both kits for our Pinto rack style K-member or a K-member that already has the existing factory rack mounts.
Our kit is a true bolt-on no welding required or guessing on steering shaft alignment.
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Thanks for the recommendation
We have refined our rack over the years by modifying the actual rack width itself to help with bump steer issues and moving the steering shaft over towards the frame rails to provide the most header room possible.
We offer both kits for our Pinto rack style K-member or a K-member that already has the existing factory rack mounts.
Our kit is a true bolt-on no welding required or guessing on steering shaft alignment.
We have refined our rack over the years by modifying the actual rack width itself to help with bump steer issues and moving the steering shaft over towards the frame rails to provide the most header room possible.
We offer both kits for our Pinto rack style K-member or a K-member that already has the existing factory rack mounts.
Our kit is a true bolt-on no welding required or guessing on steering shaft alignment.
