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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Is there any reason to not go with 1.7 roller rockers?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Is there any reason to not go with 1.7 roller rockers?
Most people won't take the time to check geometry to get it right, most people are therefore told not to do it by the 5 guys that respond to everything with their hate posts.

Only thing is the Lt1 stock heads only flow so much so at a certain point extra lift from 1.7s will not net any gain whatsoever.

There's also the idea of exhaust ptv clearance in extreme cases.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Hrm, so there wouldnt be any large benefit to scorpion 1.7's over magnum 1.6's for a straight cam swap without head work? Shoot.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadWhitey
Hrm, so there wouldnt be any large benefit to scorpion 1.7's over magnum 1.6's for a straight cam swap without head work? Shoot.
No, depends on the cam. A hotcam with 1.7s would be good. A GM847 with 1.7s probably wouldn't.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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What about a mid/big cam for stock heads, like a 503?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 95mysticta
I was going to run that LE cam he was mentioning in a 383 but ended up doing a 355 and used his 223/230 112lsa cam. I need to pass emissions and going reason i went with slightly smaller cam and on a 112 vs the 110. IMO you will have very well rounded dd cam with the extra lope at ldle with the 110lsa. If you cant afford a set of ported heads and are going to pull them i would atleast do a valve job and a small milling would bump the compression to few more ponies.

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Hardened pushrods
Good Spring kit
New stock timing chain
1.6 7/16 NSA roller rockers (if you plan to go bigger later or SA will work if you dont)
Guideplates if going with NSA rockers
ARP Rocker Studs
LS7 Lifters (Stockers should be fine but if they no good use the LS7s)
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30lb Injectors (Might be close but im sure your stockers will be close to being maxxed out)
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I might be buying a set of CC chromoly pushrods for 75 with low miles, are they considered "hardened"? Also do I need aftermarket injectors? And as far as the rockers i was gonna use the ones he recommended, where i can use the stock retainers, locks etc
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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And also are these the lifters. Just confirming before i order
http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...99225/10002/-1
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadWhitey
What about a mid/big cam for stock heads, like a 503?
I would do it. That's about as big as would make sense on the stock heads. Though I doubt you'd see any benefit. After that the flow at any higher lift barely shows an improvement worth dealing with and you'd probably only have more wear and tear on the springs and such required for that much lift.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadWhitey
What about a mid/big cam for stock heads, like a 503?
The 503 is mild size cam and known to be the biggest cam for stock heads.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by l 95 Trans Am l
And also are these the lifters. Just confirming before i order
http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...99225/10002/-1
Yup those are it
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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R3DLT1, are you the one doing the 503 swap right now? I think i saw a post on another forum for it. If thats you, can you PM me what all you went with? Im having a hard time picking everything out, or just going with the kit.
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And the LS7 lifters will fit with the stock length pushrods, correct?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by l 95 Trans Am l
And the LS7 lifters will fit with the stock length pushrods, correct?
Ls7 will work on ur application. Like stated above it will be best to use a adj push rod length checker to check the correct length. In all really 7.2 "should work" since ur not changing head gaskets nor heads have been milled but check to be safe. U don't want all ur hard work to go to waist

Bigbad: pm and ill help u out as best as I can.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Since the LS7 lifter is the current OEM replacement lifter (as in you go to the dealer, that's what they're going to put in your car)....I would say yes. Since the manufacturer would most likely not make it so you need to get custom length pushrods to repair a failed lifter, you should not have to replace them. So you "should" be able to use stock length pushrods....
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Originally Posted by duh
Since the LS7 lifter is the current OEM replacement lifter (as in you go to the dealer, that's what they're going to put in your car)....I would say yes. Since the manufacturer would most likely not make it so you need to get custom length pushrods to repair a failed lifter, you should not have to replace them. So you "should" be able to use stock length pushrods....
Ok, and these CC chromoly pushrods i might buy off this guy are 7.050", will those work? Im a noob to this stuff, so sorry for all the questions
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by R3DLT1
Ls7 will work on ur application. Like stated above it will be best to use a adj push rod length checker to check the correct length. In all really 7.2 "should work" since ur not changing head gaskets nor heads have been milled but check to be safe. U don't want all ur hard work to go to waist

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Ok, and these CC chromoly pushrods i might buy off this guy are 7.050", will those work? Im a noob to this stuff, so sorry for all the questions
Only way to be sure is to measure.
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by l 95 Trans Am l
Ok, and these CC chromoly pushrods i might buy off this guy are 7.050", will those work? Im a noob to this stuff, so sorry for all the questions
Let me jump in on this: As others have repeatedly posted - MEASURE, MEASURE, MEASURE.

Those who have recommended you do that are answering in a responsible way since there's NO WAY they can know for sure what length pushrod you'll need.

Since you're admittedly a "noob" it's best you learn the correct way from the beginning. You should MEASURE!

Jake
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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I have a brand new sealed pushrod length checking tool I'll sell you. PM me if interested.
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Im running the cam in sig on my DD. And pull your head out of your *** and listen to everyone. Buy a pushrod length checker and do it right. There was a guy in the Gen III section who assumed he needed a certain pushrod length. he wiped every cam lobe and destroyed his motor in 500 miles
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Originally Posted by l 95 Trans Am l
Ok, and these CC chromoly pushrods i might buy off this guy are 7.050", will those work? Im a noob to this stuff, so sorry for all the questions
Those right of the bat will not work those are Way to short. Become best friend with yahoo or google search engine.
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