idle problem
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idle problem need some ideas on what to look for, the car cranks and fires but smokes an stinks like fuel. it also has issues at idle, trys to shut off when i give it gas`it`shoots out smoke. after it worms up it shuts off.
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What color is the smoke?
Do you have a CEL on?
Have you scanned it yet?
Is the coolant level ok?
What brand opti?
How many miles on bottom end?, Top End? Opti?
What rpm is will it idle at?
What color is the smoke?
Do you have a CEL on?
Have you scanned it yet?
Is the coolant level ok?
What brand opti?
How many miles on bottom end?, Top End? Opti?
What rpm is will it idle at?
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no not yet i dont have a obd1 scanner
coolant level is fine
opti was bought on ebay, chandler motorsports 3 years ago
1200 on the bottom end
idles at 1200 then drops to like 200 barely idles, i have to give it gas to keep it running, sounds like its braking up and it back fires.
Last edited by ALEXZ28; Feb 7, 2011 at 11:15 AM.
the smoke looks black with alittle blue, smells like gas
no not yet i dont have a obd1 scanner
coolant level is fine
opti was bought on ebay, chandler motorsports 3 years ago
1200 on the bottom end
idles at 1200 then drops to like 200 barely idles, i have to give it gas to keep it running, sounds like its braking up and it back fires.
no not yet i dont have a obd1 scanner
coolant level is fine
opti was bought on ebay, chandler motorsports 3 years ago
1200 on the bottom end
idles at 1200 then drops to like 200 barely idles, i have to give it gas to keep it running, sounds like its braking up and it back fires.
Sorry I can't be of better help!
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not yet, all the symtoms sound like ignition, i think whats happening is the opti is not giving out enough spark and the motor is getting to much fuel. i boght a opti from advance due to its life time warrenty im gonna install tomorrow its suppose to be good weather, not to cold.
im moving back to tampa fl next week so i have to get this car running, due to the cold i havent messed with it since dec lol
im moving back to tampa fl next week so i have to get this car running, due to the cold i havent messed with it since dec lol
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check the harness that goes from the harness on the front left passenger side down to the opti.. make sure the clip is on there and it has that little washer on it.. those are notorious for going bad and letting in moisture... have you descreened the maf? i did mine and those little sensors (3 I think) one of them got broken from debris.. and it killed my maf.. take off your ingntion module and have it tested and make sure if it was replaced that the heat sink was properly secured to it.. that module can work enough to run but the saturation point is not up to par.. pull those two things first since theyre the easiest.. Maf then module / coil then harness.. the harness sucks to get off.. a long skinny *** flat heat to reach the clip release and needle nose to pull from as deep as possible.. make sure there is not green **** on the connectors.. (i doubt it is this tho) if all of those are fine, pull the opti.. if it is vented, pull the vac line on bottom first and stick a tooth pic inside the opti about a half an inch and in the hose and see if it comes out clean...
the blue smoke is not a good sign.. but black is fuel so its getting gas just not lighting it... pull a couple of the easiest plugs and check them too... From experience your problem comes from the opti...
the blue smoke is not a good sign.. but black is fuel so its getting gas just not lighting it... pull a couple of the easiest plugs and check them too... From experience your problem comes from the opti...
Chandler Motorsports Opti? If you do get a scanner look for a "Low Resolution Voltage to Opti" should be a code 16. Thats usually the code the opti gives off before it takes a dump. I'm surprised the Chandler opti went this far. 
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i just changed the opti and nothing changed, it started idling rough so i unhooked the map and it started idling better, so i went to advance and bought a new map. then my brother called said it could be the sensor under the water pump bc its over loading on fuel, so we unhooked it and started to idle back to normal and was running fine. so i took back the maf and put the old one back on and i changed the sensor under the water pump and tried to crank it now its back fring like hell.
i also tried to check the codes with a paper clip and it wasnt flashing anything. not sure if it makes a difference but the car was off when i tried to check the codes.
i also tried to check the codes with a paper clip and it wasnt flashing anything. not sure if it makes a difference but the car was off when i tried to check the codes.
do this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3CzHCfz-9A
clip only workes on 93 94 and possible but unlikely on 95... thats the year they were upgrading to obdII most of our fbody 95s were loosely called obd 1.5... has obd1 port but upgraded to II'ish software...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3CzHCfz-9A
clip only workes on 93 94 and possible but unlikely on 95... thats the year they were upgrading to obdII most of our fbody 95s were loosely called obd 1.5... has obd1 port but upgraded to II'ish software...
i just changed the opti and nothing changed, it started idling rough so i unhooked the map and it started idling better, so i went to advance and bought a new map. then my brother called said it could be the sensor under the water pump bc its over loading on fuel, so we unhooked it and started to idle back to normal and was running fine. so i took back the maf and put the old one back on and i changed the sensor under the water pump and tried to crank it now its back fring like hell.
i also tried to check the codes with a paper clip and it wasnt flashing anything. not sure if it makes a difference but the car was off when i tried to check the codes.
i also tried to check the codes with a paper clip and it wasnt flashing anything. not sure if it makes a difference but the car was off when i tried to check the codes.
there are a handfull... my first 95 had an obd I port.. II is the standard though. it was the limbo year for OBD changeover... and whats worse, the wont read the codes for them at any autoparts store iv found....
