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Old 01-19-2011, 12:16 PM
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I went w/ madz28, Ion's always been quick and trouble free. when ever I finally get my new heads slapped on Im planning on having Ed Wright tune in lieu of a dyno tune due to my area and Ed's tunes are always almost spot on when people w/ his tune get dyno-tuned.
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Moe bailey ftw
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Ed Wright or Moe Bailey
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on a milder build i had pcmforless and i think it had room for improvement. on my 385 build i had ion do it. lets just say i have been putting in some work on this turd. there were a few issues that needed to be sorted out.. it was SUPER rich, the idle tables for park/neutral were zero'd out its a m6 and it wouldn't idle for more then a few seconds. the ve tables were for much less aggressive setup. i was not impressed with the product and was expecting to have to put some time in it but i think they were simple mistakes that shouldn't have been made.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Everyone hates solomon Idk why but he has my car running 107 in the quarter with his tune and simple bolts ons but If i get serious with a build i will probably go to PCMforless as well because of there tremendous history
Since when do people hate Solomon? I thought he had a great rep with the LT1 crowd. My first tune was with a major sponsor who does tuning. Added headers and got a retune from the same sponsor. Was disappointed at the increase in performance. Just for kicks, I got a retune from Solomon. Car drove much peppier and shaved .11 off my qtr mile compared to the retune from the other guys (corrected for sea level). I never even data logged it or had him do any fine tuning...just ran with his first try. I will definitely go back to him.
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I never understood why people cheap out on something so detrimental to the cars performance. A dyno tune by a reputable tuner will always be spot on and a lot safer than a mail order tune from someone that never sees the car. Hell my tuner had to take 6 degrees of timing out of mine at WOT over my mail order tune and richen it up quite a bit. He probably saved my motor in the process.
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I have used Mad z for many friends cars along with my own great results.... I cannot speak ill of anyone they all have a good thing going..... everyone has problems at some point and time.
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Ed Wright at Fastchips
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Just got mine back from pcmforless , It sounds and runs Awsome ! and they got it back to me fast
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I never understood why people cheap out on something so detrimental to the cars performance. A dyno tune by a reputable tuner will always be spot on and a lot safer than a mail order tune from someone that never sees the car. Hell my tuner had to take 6 degrees of timing out of mine at WOT over my mail order tune and richen it up quite a bit. He probably saved my motor in the process.
You are running heads/cam. In cases like that, yes a dyno tune is definitely the way to go. But for guys with a few bolt-ons and want to tweak it as they go, it doesn't make sense to pay $400 or more for a dyno tune.
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Moe Bailey! Now I have never had Moe do a mail tune, but I did have PCMforless do my mail tune and they got me 377rwhp. Then I had Moe dynotune it and it went up to 403rwhp! Not knocking on PCMforless, they may have been able to do that if they were able to dynotune it. But then again it was a very common cam. 306 comp cam with LE1 heads.
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
In the time to do all that, you could have easily answered the question. I don't get this board. You can read the title and know that it's a search topic, yet you come in and say it anyway. Just stay out of it.

Also, 99.99999999% of ALL threads in this forum are repeat. Should we all say search for everything? This forum would die. It would be an archive, not a message board.

Give the "do a search" BS a rest already. Answer the question or STFU.
thats how nubs that don't contribute any technical information to this site pump up there post count!! Pretty sad and is why I have not been on this site as much.

Anyways, op go with ion or moe bailey. I use to be a fan of pcm for less until a few local guys had thier lsx's go boom because of his tune. Frost even said his tunes were jacked!
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I am getting everything together right now for Ion to do a tune for me. I am doing a OBD1 conversion since I have the parts laying around and just got my Moates 95 ALDL usb box and cable so I can have Ion do a E-mail tune and data logging. Hope to have this done in the next week.
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I'm sending mine into pcmforless next monday. I always put 93 octane in my car since our local shell sells it. Is there any real gain using 93 instead of like 89 or 91?
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I sent a message to the customer support at madz28, lets see if I get a reply.
I did look at the other posts, those opinions could have changed. It is not a computer made part that is spot on every time. So I had to ask it to get a current answer.
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Originally Posted by white3800camaro
I sent a message to the customer support at madz28, lets see if I get a reply.
I did look at the other posts, those opinions could have changed. It is not a computer made part that is spot on every time. So I had to ask it to get a current answer.
just a heads up but he only responds to emails between 6pm and 9pm. Thats usually when I get mine but he has been very good about getting back to me in a day or so.
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Originally Posted by dubga
You are running heads/cam. In cases like that, yes a dyno tune is definitely the way to go. But for guys with a few bolt-ons and want to tweak it as they go, it doesn't make sense to pay $400 or more for a dyno tune.
I was still getting detonation on my mail order tune when I just had boltons too. He was way too aggressive with the timing and a/f, which is something a mail order tune should be conservative on.

Just because a bunch of people online follow a trend doesn't mean it's a good one to follow.
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I've used pcmforless and currently have a madz28 tune, never had problems with either. I went with ion because of the good price
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I ran a PCMforless mail-order tune on my new motor for over a year (before I eventually had it dyno tuned by the same tuner) with zero problems, including zero detonation, constantly monitored. Only picked up 15HP on the dyno, so I'd say the mail-order tune was pretty damn good.
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Im going with PCMforless my self.


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