LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Thanks for the compliments.

Since you want to keep the stock bottom end though, I think the AI 200cc heads would be a great fit for you if your budget allows. Guys are really moving with their stuff. But if you're on more of a budget the LE stuff is good too.
Was lookin at TrickFlow also. Lookin at 195 intake, 75 exhaust, and 62cc combustion chambers....2.02" intake/1.60" exhaust valves. Made for a supercharger setup on the LT1. Looked into AFR also.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DoYouLikeMyGun2
Was lookin at TrickFlow also. Lookin at 195 intake, 75 exhaust, and 62cc combustion chambers....2.02" intake/1.60" exhaust valves. Made for a supercharger setup on the LT1. Looked into AFR also.
I run those TFS 195 heads. They will knock your compression down a little to 9.2-1 on a stock shortblock.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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You should talk to Brute Speed for sure.

You don't need forged internals to have a supercharger but its good insurance. The main factor will be the tune.

I run forged pistons, rods and crank and the STOCK 2 BOLT MAIN caps and saw over 600 rwhp and 20#s of boost. Get the tune right and you don't break stuff.

If you really are looking for 700+ hp and don't care about blowing the motor, then you can strap on the blower and drive it till you break it and rebuild it forged.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WhistlingZ
You should talk to Brute Speed for sure.

You don't need forged internals to have a supercharger but its good insurance. The main factor will be the tune.

I run forged pistons, rods and crank and the STOCK 2 BOLT MAIN caps and saw over 600 rwhp and 20#s of boost. Get the tune right and you don't break stuff.

If you really are looking for 700+ hp and don't care about blowing the motor, then you can strap on the blower and drive it till you break it and rebuild it forged.
cant rebuild with a rod sticking through a block
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tricked94camaro
cant rebuild with a rod sticking through a block


He has a good point here
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 05:12 AM
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Sure you can, you just need a new block. How many of you have seen someone throw a rod through the block with 6-8 psi?
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WhistlingZ
Sure you can, you just need a new block. How many of you have seen someone throw a rod through the block with 6-8 psi?
then its not technically a "rebuild". and ive seen thrown rods at ZERO psi
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Oh my, let's argue semantics here. You're right, you can throw a rod, I've seen someone stick a rod through the side of a block while starting it. The point is, what are the chances? Slim due to boost. The higher chance would be because of high RPMS and has nothing to do with the boost, which is what the OP is asking.

The rebuild I am speaking of would be because of the hypercrap pistons breaking at the ringlands. Puffing smoke out the oil cap like a train, pressurizing the crank case and shooting the dipstick out. All of which would be because of a bad tune and detonation, not because of too high RPMS and a rod coming out sideways.
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Originally Posted by WhistlingZ
Oh my, let's argue semantics here. You're right, you can throw a rod, I've seen someone stick a rod through the side of a block while starting it. The point is, what are the chances? Slim due to boost. The higher chance would be because of high RPMS and has nothing to do with the boost, which is what the OP is asking.
hell my buddy went to start his LS1 while leaving work and heard a loud bang and the car shut off. looked underneath and saw 5 quarts of oil and a rod hanging out the side.

The rebuild I am speaking of would be because of the hypercrap pistons breaking at the ringlands. Puffing smoke out the oil cap like a train, pressurizing the crank case and shooting the dipstick out. All of which would be because of a bad tune and detonation, not because of too high RPMS and a rod coming out sideways.
meth and a good tune would definately keep a stock rotating assembly alive well past the "average expected life" of a boosted LT1.

one of the common mistakes I see with boosted LT1s is people using a tiny supplied intercooler that came with the kit and a mail order tune or none at all.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
I run those TFS 195 heads. They will knock your compression down a little to 9.2-1 on a stock shortblock.
Thanks.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Don't really want to buy another block if I don't have to. And WILL probably forge internals...don't want to have to rebuild it twice. Appreciate the debate and all the advice.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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Good luck with your project. whether forged or not, make room in the budget for a proper tune. It will live forever that way.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WhistlingZ
Good luck with your project. whether forged or not, make room in the budget for a proper tune. It will live forever that way.
Will do. Thanks.
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