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Old May 24, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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I just finished getting most of the connections and hoses free from the motor and now i am moving to the trans. What all needs to be disconnected to drop the trans along with the motor. I've got the torque arm off, removed the shifter and center console. Looks like i have to just take off the slave? will fluid come gushing out? im not too familiar with the trans. Ive got a guide for a A4 and it list tranny cooler lines and shifter linkage. Couldn't find much help on manual trans. Any help or tips?
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Old May 24, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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u should have the speed cable and harness yes fluid will come out of tail shaft housing when u pull the driveshaft and will drain completly as u pull her out should by a trans snout it plugs up the tail shaft then got the fake cross member then the real cross member and the i pipe,driveshaft then i think thats it man gl
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Old May 24, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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trans snout. can that be bought at auto zone? last thing on the front left is the AC hoses attached to the compressor.. I just can't get to the hoses on the back.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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yeah there a pain in the a$$ yes u should be able to get it there or ive seen them at harbor freight i think thats the name of the hole sell place oh they are usally pink or orange

worse case grab some electrical tape and a walmart bag with bag close cover tailshaft and wrap tape around it FAST!!!
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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Or maybe it's a good time to drain the tranny? Just a thought...
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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Or maybe it's a good time to drain the tranny? Just a thought...
LOL took the words right outta my mouth, i drain it everytime!
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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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leave the driveshaft in if you dont have a plug. swing it out from under the car with the tranny.
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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GREGG 97Z
Or maybe it's a good time to drain the tranny? Just a thought...
totally slipped my mind
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Old May 24, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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damn. well heres another question. all the wires leading to the PCM.. do it leave em in the car or does it all come off... sorry its hot over here and the heat is making me stupid
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Old May 24, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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Just unplug them from the trans....
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Old May 24, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Just unplug them from the trans....
umm.. wasn't talking about those wires but thanks for your input.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 03:07 AM
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Are you swapping to an auto? Might help if you stated what exactly you're trying to accomplish ...
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Old May 25, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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first time dropping the motor through the bottom and decided to drop the tranny along with it. Just taking my time and wanted to know if "all" wires from PCM --> engine/ opti/ trans etc needed to be disconnected.. I then realized of course.. all wires must be disconnected. My grey matter has been all used up from finals week and not having a proper DIY write up is making this harder than expected.

However.. i have made some progress working little by little when i find time.
-removed all Rad. water hoses
-Most of wires removed except grounds, lower block connections O2 sensors etc, tranny wires
-one y-pipe bolt is being a B****
-then i still need to remove torque arm (do i need to just unbolt the two bolt on the rear and the torque arm will slide out? or does the bracket on the tranny need to come off also?)
-AC compressor hoses (can i just push it out of the way or am i better off just removing the compressor?)

I'm getting pissed of because i've read people dropping the motor in 3-4 hours and i'm wayyy beyond that.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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I used the guide from Michigan Speed. Worked great.
http://www.michiganspeed.com/enginepull/index.html

For wiring, the only stuff you need to pull is:
1) battery, starter wires, grounds.
2) 3 connectors inside cab under passenger's side dash/kick panel and pull them out through the firewall
3) 2 or 3 harness connections on the passenger's side strut tower.
4) O2's
5) ABS connectors

For the AC, I was able to un-bolt the connection from the back of the AC compressor and leave all my compressor hoses/connections in the engine bay.

You can unbolt the 2 bolts on the rear for the torque arm, and you'll probably need to loosen (but not necessarily remove) the clamshell and wiggle the torque arm out.

Definitely drain the trans. This is a good opportunity to inspect the fluid to get an idea of your transmission's health, and to do a bit more maintenance by changing the fluid out.
The clutch slave will not leak any fluid. Unbolt it from the trans and let it hang.
Make sure to remember to disconnect your brake lines too.
Don't worry about the time...the first time I pulled my motor, it took like 6 hours.
The second time I pulled my motor....took about 2.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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2) 3 connectors inside cab under passenger's side dash/kick panel and pull them out through the firewall
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Are these necessary? are they coming down with the engine? reason i ask is because it looks like it stays with the wiring harness.
btw thanks for your help.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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-WTH!! how do you get the steering shaft off? ive got both bolts off.. what pops off first the top or the bottom?

-Next how do you pop off the oil lever sensor??
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Old May 25, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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The low oil sensor is a blind one. Just stick a small flat blade screwdriver down a slot in the sensor. If you get it right the screwdriver will go into a slot in the sensor. Lift up and it will pull out if you have the screwdriver in the slot. Hard to explain, but once you see if all makes sense.

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Old May 25, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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k. i kind of get what you mean.

Lastly how do i get that damn steering shaft offf!!!
does it slide up towards the firewall and the bottom pops off? or the other way around?
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Old May 26, 2011 | 03:16 AM
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Been awhile since i've done it but i'm pretty sure you tap it up toward the firewall as you stated and then when you've got the bottom off, obviously tap it back down and off of the end of the steering column. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong but if i remember correctly that's how ya do it.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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tab the top part of the steering toward the firewall, once it starts to come apart you've done the hard part. you should be able to pull it apart after you make a little progress. chances are it hasn't been separated in a long time and just needs some "encouragement".

don't worry about the time it takes...took me days to remove my motor and trans. the guys that do it in 3-4hrs are experienced and have all the right tools. most important, i took pictures of all the vacuum lines, connections, etc... so i had a guide when I put it back together.
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