Probe dish pistons vs Flat tops
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Probe dish pistons vs Flat tops Talked to my engine builder today and he is recommending forged probe dish pistons. He says that with California gas running flat tops will put me in danger of detonation. I am still not convinced but I NEED to let him know tomorrow exactly what pistons I want.. I did a CR calculator and these pistons put me at 10.2:1 CR with .026 gaskets and .020 deck clearance.. which I'm not even sure is correct.
Here are the pistons
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PBP-12342-030/
All this being said, this car is NOT a race car and will be commuting more than anything.. However, that does not mean I don't want all the power i can squeeze out of it. So what do yall think? Are these pistons a big NO NO? or are they okay? It's killing me to think that they might be a big mistake, I can easily call him tomorrow and let him know that i would rather have some forged flat tops with 5cc reliefs.. Will this put make my CR too high for crappy CA 91 octane?
I haven't seen any threads about anyone even running these pistons.
FYI this is a N/A build with plans of light nitrous use in the future.
Here are the pistons
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PBP-12342-030/
All this being said, this car is NOT a race car and will be commuting more than anything.. However, that does not mean I don't want all the power i can squeeze out of it. So what do yall think? Are these pistons a big NO NO? or are they okay? It's killing me to think that they might be a big mistake, I can easily call him tomorrow and let him know that i would rather have some forged flat tops with 5cc reliefs.. Will this put make my CR too high for crappy CA 91 octane?
I haven't seen any threads about anyone even running these pistons.
FYI this is a N/A build with plans of light nitrous use in the future.
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I want to call him up and tell him to use these pistons instead.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PBP-12336-030/
CR should be 11.5:1 with the .026 head gasket with these.. Will that be pushing it with 91 octane in CA?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PBP-12336-030/
CR should be 11.5:1 with the .026 head gasket with these.. Will that be pushing it with 91 octane in CA?
BS I am running these with 4.030" bore and 54cc heads with no problem at all. And I am running victor reinz 5898 .026" head gasket
http://www.probeindustries.com/Chevy...ns_p/12334.htm with CA 91. I ordered mine from ebay they came directly from probe in the LA area and I got them in two days for 419.99. They are nice and light; something like 28 grams lighter than the stock piston. I would go with the piston I am using as they are slightly lower compression.
http://www.probeindustries.com/Chevy...ns_p/12334.htm with CA 91. I ordered mine from ebay they came directly from probe in the LA area and I got them in two days for 419.99. They are nice and light; something like 28 grams lighter than the stock piston. I would go with the piston I am using as they are slightly lower compression.
Last edited by henry172; Jun 7, 2011 at 12:16 AM.
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PBP-12336-030/
they save me 20 bucks in the long run and I can always blame you guys for screwing me over instead of my engine builder
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Just because they recommend a lower compression ratio doesn't mean they are an idiot. From a SBC perspective he is far more accurate in his suggestions, but obviously is not as well versed about the LT1. Most SBC builders are not aware of the benefits of the LT1 so sometimes it takes a bit of educating on your part.
My suggestion is to emulate what others have done and what has been shown to work. Don't worry about the builder too much assuming all things aside his workmanship is top notch.
My suggestion is to emulate what others have done and what has been shown to work. Don't worry about the builder too much assuming all things aside his workmanship is top notch.
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Just because they recommend a lower compression ratio doesn't mean they are an idiot. From a SBC perspective he is far more accurate in his suggestions, but obviously is not as well versed about the LT1. Most SBC builders are not aware of the benefits of the LT1 so sometimes it takes a bit of educating on your part.
My suggestion is to emulate what others have done and what has been shown to work. Don't worry about the builder too much assuming all things aside his workmanship is top notch.
My suggestion is to emulate what others have done and what has been shown to work. Don't worry about the builder too much assuming all things aside his workmanship is top notch.
BTW these guys just built a Chevy, big block, magna charged, AFR headed, 950+ HP motor. Its sitting right by the parts counter, so I'm sure that they can manage my little LT1.
I guarantee they know more about supercharged BBCs than they know about N/A LT1s. That doesn't automatically qualify them as LT1-competent.
The builder that assembled my short block also had the same mentality with my motor when I told them about the 12.5:1 compression. After a few discussions with them and showing them comparable cars they delivered.
The builder that assembled my short block also had the same mentality with my motor when I told them about the 12.5:1 compression. After a few discussions with them and showing them comparable cars they delivered.
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I would go with the flat-tops. Plenty of guys in here running well over 11-1 on pump gas. My new motor will be over 11.5-1 and it will be on pump, but I can get 93 everywhere around here. I know some of you guys are stuck running 91.
