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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Yeah, mid low 13's at about 104-106 should be about your average. I like atco. It's why I moved only 15 minutes from the track. Nice and fast. My black 93 there went 13.632@102.32 with a CAI, gutted cat, Hypertech Coil, and B&M Ripper.
I'd say the same. Mid-Low 13's.
It's nice to hear good reports about Atco. I just recently got back into drag racing after an almost 30 year absence. I grew up in NJ and used to race at Atco in the mid '70's. It was a good track then, as well. From what I've seen on TV, they seem to be catering to ricers now, though. Do they hold any other national events there besides the compact car races? That's the only one that makes it to the boob tube here in Michigan.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I think Atco has something like 5 nationally televised races a year now. I don't believe they're a NHRA track though, which is sad.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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LOL I'll have to agree that the tranny would take a **** before the motor I had a "BUILT" cottman go out on the first run. Weird thing is it was built the tranny guy I had do it again said all the bad *** parts they said were in it were. But alas I just swapped a T56 in her and called it good.

LT1 is pretty stout, it will probably take one shot like that if you retard the timing and don't get any detonation...maybe throw some race gas in there. But the trailer would be a good idea. There are some guys spraying there cars into the 200K range others blow motors with 30K on em.

As far as your race either your parents have a dog LS1 or can't drive. I'm not going to start an LS1 vs LT1 war because 9 times out of 10 I'll be on the LT1 side. But stock for stock and LS1 WILL run an LT1 car down. The LT1 will get the hole shot then the LS1 will catch it. Now there are some factory freak LT1's out there and some Dog LS1s. But to think your 180K car is still in the "Freak" status is a little much. Get those two cars in a controled environment at the track and see what happens. Anything can happen on the street. I'd believe you if you said you beat a Z06 if its on the street.

I think with the mods you are planning you are looking at low to mid 13's. If I were you I'd go with a 9inch converter 2800 stall and buy a smaller cam like a 224 or a hotcam kit. Replace your cam springs and rockers you'll be in high 12's. Get that instead of the WP and custom make a CAI forget about the elbow if your going budget right now. JMHO I have a "little" experience with the LT1.

And yes fast bird I do know who I am Thanks!
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Guess I should say "bought from a member on here with TWO nice cars now!!"
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Did you see the pic of my vert? Its going to look a little different by the end of next week I'll have pics on my website
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Looks pretty nice!!!!

On a side note, I finally got that freaking shifter **** off, and wouldn't you know, Jason Cromer sent me the wrong lighter/accessory plug wiring harness'. Doh!!
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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93TAWicked1............

The parts that I listed are already on the car (i.e. the elbow).

My parents BONE-STOCK 99 Z28 Vert A4 ran the 13.2 @105. So, it's not a dog for an LS1. It has run the same time about 15 times now.

I KNOW stock for stock the LS1 would beat the LT1, my brother has an 00 WS6 that ran 12.87 BONE-STOCK. There is no arguing that point. BUT..........like I said, the mods listed........ARE ALREADY DONE!

Thanks for the replies, it looks like I won't be able to run the car untill the first week of may since I am back at school, so we will definately see what it runs then.

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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LOL SORRY I read it wrong I will TRY to read threads better next time. and YES I do believe the car WOULD beat a stock ls1 I know for a fact an LT1 car with headers, catback, CAI can keep up with alot of stock LS1's. AT Least in the quarter they were gaining on me at the end of the track.

I wasn't TRYING to start **** I was just trying to help!

Sounds like you got a screamin deal!

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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ok question...i only have a cai(homemade, no silencer), no cats, tb-pass, fan mod, 2.5 inch exhaust(stock headers), 17x9 1/2 ss rims on g-force tire...and i weigh about 150 pounds...about how much hp/tq and even et times do ya guys think i can have or do...just wondering and im putting msd wires and coil on the car tomorrow....any estimates would help alot.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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oh forgot its a 93 lt1 m6 camaro
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Well 93's are the best year If it has the 150mph speedo it has the 3:23 rear end and the bomb *** gears in the tranny. IF you can get traction I'd say a 13.8-14.1 at 99.9 to 102.5. I'm assuming a 2.1 or better 60ft. Of course if your in TX or at that track GMHTP runs on they seem to run better
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 01:25 AM
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yeah it does have up to 150...not so bad timing for the little amount of money it cost to get the mods done...how much would it help to get a msd box, wire, coil...and exactly what does it do to your car...ok last question I want to put bigger gears but maintain my daily driver...and about how much will it cost me...sorry for all the questions.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 93TAWicked1
Well 93's are the best year If it has the 150mph speedo it has the 3:23 rear end and the bomb *** gears in the tranny. IF you can get traction I'd say a 13.8-14.1 at 99.9 to 102.5. I'm assuming a 2.1 or better 60ft. Of course if your in TX or at that track GMHTP runs on they seem to run better
How's a 13.632@102.32 on a 2.14 short time, at Atco. Only mods were K&N CAI, Hypertech Powercoil, B&M Ripper, gutted cat, and flowbastard muffler. Oh, and Chrome WS6 rims with SZ50's as the shoes. I was convinced there was more in it, but didn't want to jinx anything.

GMHTP does do testing at Atco though.....
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Ahah that is why your times are so good!!! LOL, I was just quoting the average stock times. Shoot the purple car only did a 14.01 at 101 with headers, cat back, coil and 17 inch WS6 rims on BFG KWDS's.... But at Atco It probably would have ran a 12.9

TSAEB- You should probably start your own thread

But to answer your questions:

The ignition stuff will not really help unless your stock ignition is failing But if your replacing stock stuff you might as well get better stuff At what I'm guessing your mileage is it would be a good idea. I REALLY liked the MSD digital 6, It did increase throttle response and the car just felt "livelier" I don't think they'll make a hole lot of difference at the track, unless your stock stuff is shot...

On the rear end you have to be careful with 93's it is a WHOLE different animal in alot of ways. You have one of the best IMO tranny\gear ratio setups of the 4th gens. Where the 94+ do well with 4:10's that would be a pretty deep gear for you. I would really spend my money elsewhere at the level you are at. When it does come time for gears I would probably go 3:42's and 3:73's at the lowest. I mean without traction whats it going to matter. This is assuming we are talking drag racing street racing from a roll I may change that suggestion.

If I had a 93 to start over again.... I would get the ignition mods with the MSD box a digital 6. Some long tube headers or some AZ marine 1 3/4 mid lengths a better clutch and some sticky tires. If you have a fast 93 and can get grip low 13's is a good bet. Then a cam kit, I mean a hot cam kit is like 475 and it would freshin up your vavletrain and you'd be in the 12's for sure with traction and tuning. There are guys running deep into the 12's with hot cams. If you have the money I'd go with a different cam but on a budget that is a sweet package and it passes emissions the sniffer roller kind

Hope that helps, I THINK fastbird will back me up. Just got to be a little careful the 93 is different and people will give you advise meaning well and there are right if the car was a 94+ Again this is all JMHO
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Whaddaya mean think??? Of course I'd back ya up!!!
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