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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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I would bet money that the LT1 car in question has worn bearings. A sure way to tell is to fire it up right after it has sat all night. For a SPLIT second right when it fires you will hear the unmistakable death rattle of metal on metal. It sounds like a metallic clatter. It only lasts for maybe a half second until the car builds oil pressure.

How much are they asking for the car?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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$5K for the car. It's literally pristine though. All leather is original and only a bit of wear, body straight as an arrow with original paint. All stock with the exception of a K&N CAI. Clean carfax, rebuilt tranny and still has 12K on the warranty. All rubber is perfect. Obviously a pampered car. So for the price, which I know is a bit on the high side, I was OK with...but not with the possibility (or probability) of a blown engine.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
I would bet money that the LT1 car in question has worn bearings. A sure way to tell is to fire it up right after it has sat all night. For a SPLIT second right when it fires you will hear the unmistakable death rattle of metal on metal. It sounds like a metallic clatter. It only lasts for maybe a half second until the car builds oil pressure.

How much are they asking for the car?
Great point. I did crank it up after it'd been sitting for about 24hrs. I didn't know to listen for that...dammit But I did bury my foot into her for a few seconds...ran through second and well into third. No smoke, and sounded strong. Does that mean anything?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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$5000 for a car with 108k and oil pressure issues, definitely keep looking.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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If you're really interested, get a mechanic you trust to check it out. There may be nothing of any significance wrong with the car. I would want to make sure it has good fuel pressure too. Changing the pump can be a pain if you do it yourself, and expensive if you let a shop change it.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
Go with the 02 v6. More reliable,better on gas, less to insure, and quite frankly, much safer for a "first car". I have seen many a young folk get into a lt1 with little driving experience and end up in a tree, light pole, other car, etc..etc...
im not in a tree yet
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DocT
$5K for the car. It's literally pristine though. All leather is original and only a bit of wear, body straight as an arrow with original paint. All stock with the exception of a K&N CAI. Clean carfax, rebuilt tranny and still has 12K on the warranty. All rubber is perfect. Obviously a pampered car. So for the price, which I know is a bit on the high side, I was OK with...but not with the possibility (or probability) of a blown engine.
5k is a little high...
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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id do the unreliable lt1. But thats me. If you dont have a income that can be put towards the car, get a v6. Dont buy a lt1 and think its gonna be roses. down the road the lt1 can be alot of fun, but they can also be alot of work. low mile babied lt1's are still old, and they will break. just dont think your gonna drive this thing for a year and have nothing go wrong.

that being said the v6 could be the same way and have some things go wrong, but atleast its not a 600$ opti spark...ya know?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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get an insurance quote before you buy it. that alone might make the decision for you.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stuart4185
get an insurance quote before you buy it. that alone might make the decision for you.
im payin $140 a month
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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When I checked when I was 16 years old, a V6 mustang was more expensive to insure than a V8 firebird. Camaros were between the two.

Definitely dont buy a V6 car. No fun
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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$5k for an LT1... Crazy

I spent $2200 on mine.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeTopZ
$5000 for a car with 108k and oil pressure issues, definitely keep looking.
Yep. Walk away. Something this controversial like whether or not oil pressure is legitimate should be a sign to keep looking. You never know if the sellers hit up Skeeter the Alleged Mechanic and either bribed him or know him well enough to fabricate documentation. If the replaced sender is giving the same readings as the original then most likely there are more serious problems.
If you are dead set on this car then request you have the car checked out by a shop of those you know and/or trust. With stock bearing tolerances the pressure should read between 15 and 20psi at idle with oil up to operating temp.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Is the car a manual or automatic? I would be more inclined to continue pursuing this car if it were a manual, but that's just me. If you like the car, get someone to check it out. In my opinion, the seller should have no problem allowing a potential buyer that luxury.

Is there a listing on the web for the car?
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Thanks for all the input! To answer some questions: The money thing is going to be a issue for my son, as he's going to have to keep it up maintenance wise. Insurance was exactly the same when quoted, so that's not an issue (and it's liability only). It is a a4 auto, and the tranny has recently been rebuilt and has 12K warranty on it. Optispark and water pump replaced last year.

I'm planning to have a mechanic check it out. One who I'm familiar with. With all that being said, I'm leaning more towards the V6, but my son (who is OK with either...prefers the 94 LT1).

Here is the link: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/2802531827.html
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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He should knock off 2K just for the exhaust.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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LOL my 97 looks almost exactly like that. Minus wheels, same options (except mine is M6) and I picked mine up for $2600. Granted it needed just a bit of work ( what lt1 doesn't )

If your willing to drive to Houston...

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2760499130.html

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2789341509.html
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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I think we're going with the newer V6. I need a little piece of mind, and the possibility of a bearing on the verge of biting the dust, on my son's first car...doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I know that a V8 is a little "cooler" but on his first car, I don't know if he could stay out of trouble with a V8 rumble, and a challenge by one of his buddies who's watched F&F too many times. With a V6, he'll be more inclined to laugh, and say, it's just a V6.

I really appreciate all the input. I think you may have saved my son (and I) a great deal of potential misery, and a lot of car-sitting-in-the-garage-broken-down syndrome.

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could just be a bad oil sender. most of the aftermarket ones are notorious for reading low.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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My first Fbody was a 96 V6 M5 with the Y87 package. It was fun and fast enough to get in trouble.

If I remember right I did get it to run a 15.1 in the 1/4 mile
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