Convince me
On an LS you get into things that make sense to buy that the LT1 doesn't need, like say an intake manifold. MOST LT1 builds are fine with a stock intake. If I understand things right a 400rwhp LS stands to gain like 20hp from a $1200 FAST intake and supporting bits, meaning you want a performance LS you are probably going to buy that very expensive intake.
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I knew you guys would make this decision tough. Maybe I'll just go as big as I can with the LTx and a hyd roller. Good thing drive ability doesn't matter. Lol
Im kinda PRO LTX though...lol
Why not add a blower, low boost, and tune and call it a day..... you can enjoy the hell out of it... There is a P600 for sale for 1k..... in like new condition on LTXtech.com
Just my 2c....
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I'm really not a FI type of guy. I'd truly love to do a 427 or 434 LTx but seeing as nobody wants to make a block that won't happen. I don't plan on going all out either. Currently I'm thinking 383/396, no fill, a cam that will spin probably to 7000 RPM tops so I can keep it a Hydraulic roller. As for heads.....BadHawk has had great success with Brodix...I know plenty of guys have made power with stock heads, but for some reason I want something that flows over 300cfm in in the .600" range. I've also been thinking about trying to do a cheaper version of the 24x swap by using the 02/03 Express van distributor and harness. It runs a 4x crank and the cam sensor is in the distributor. Best part is it runs off the 0411 PCM. Tuning would be just as easy as a 24x swap since it is the same PCM, just a single coil instead. While I do want to control costs, I only want to do things once so I will spend money, luckily the wife understands this for the most part. My money statements were a little vague. I don't want to build a LTx, then be disappointed with the performance then have to build an LSx to satisfy. Again, I'm stuck. I'm leaning towards keeping the LTx as of now, just because I already have half the block parts I would need. If I were simple, I have more than enough parts to do a 355 (I'm short pistons right now), and have the heads sent to LE or AI. The biggest issue I have is I don't like being mainstream. Right here on the boards you can see guys sig's with 3xx ci, AI/LE heads and cam, and 4xxrwhp. That's great don't get me wrong, but I don't like being like everyone else. My ideal engine would be a daily driven mechanical roller that spins to 8500rpm and makes 600+ to the tires. But seeing as I don't have that kind of money, I'm trying to find a happy medium....
Sorry about the rambling.
Sorry about the rambling.
I'm really not a FI type of guy. I'd truly love to do a 427 or 434 LTx but seeing as nobody wants to make a block that won't happen. I don't plan on going all out either. Currently I'm thinking 383/396, no fill, a cam that will spin probably to 7000 RPM tops so I can keep it a Hydraulic roller. As for heads.....BadHawk has had great success with Brodix...I know plenty of guys have made power with stock heads, but for some reason I want something that flows over 300cfm in in the .600" range. I've also been thinking about trying to do a cheaper version of the 24x swap by using the 02/03 Express van distributor and harness. It runs a 4x crank and the cam sensor is in the distributor. Best part is it runs off the 0411 PCM. Tuning would be just as easy as a 24x swap since it is the same PCM, just a single coil instead. While I do want to control costs, I only want to do things once so I will spend money, luckily the wife understands this for the most part. My money statements were a little vague. I don't want to build a LTx, then be disappointed with the performance then have to build an LSx to satisfy. Again, I'm stuck. I'm leaning towards keeping the LTx as of now, just because I already have half the block parts I would need. If I were simple, I have more than enough parts to do a 355 (I'm short pistons right now), and have the heads sent to LE or AI. The biggest issue I have is I don't like being mainstream. Right here on the boards you can see guys sig's with 3xx ci, AI/LE heads and cam, and 4xxrwhp. That's great don't get me wrong, but I don't like being like everyone else. My ideal engine would be a daily driven mechanical roller that spins to 8500rpm and makes 600+ to the tires. But seeing as I don't have that kind of money, I'm trying to find a happy medium....
Sorry about the rambling.
Sorry about the rambling.
why are you even thinking of swapping when you havent even set a goal? if you want to knock off a second then heads and a cam, or procharger. problem solved why bother swapping? if you wanta go faster than that you can run both, either way its all expensive.
I built a solid 396 with a RPM 6spd and moser 12 bolt, it made 580 on the engine dyno, more than enough for the street. I ran it in my drag car and cut 1.32 60 foot with a 9.6@136 1/4 not spining over 6600. Nothing special on my setup, just a street cam with a set of ported Darts.


