LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Efi 24x Conversion Startup Issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:33 PM
  #1  
jahajazz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Default Efi 24x Conversion Startup Issues

Hello, I have 1996 z28 that I recently completed an engine rebuild/ EFI Connection LSx PCM conversion in.

Here is what I have determined so far:
The starter is turning over
The fuel injectors are firing - I can smell the fuel
The coils do not seem to be firing. I have battery + voltage at each coil. With key on, I have 12v, and cranking it over I have 9.75v. The injector control wire is getting .2v, however I do not know if this is in range for firing the coil?
A scan tool shows RPM of about 125 - 150, which is one indication of a functioning 24x waveform signal.
The block to battery and block to body grounds are good. The four PCM grounds are good. The two Battery 12v feed pins show 12.2v, while the pcm ignition pin shows 12.0v with the key on.
The crank sprocket is a gm piece, matching the thickness spec given my EFI Connection.
At the crank sensor cavity C, I get 11.11v when going from cavity C to ground, as well as when going to low reference cavity B. I have checked the CKP wires for shorts an other issues.
I have also tried jumping from big yellow to purple on the theft deterrant relay. I have also checked all the fuses.
The PCM is a used 411, tuned by a local tuner for my build.

I thought maybe the battery could be the culprit, but I it is only a few months old and charges right up to 12.6v with a trickle charger. While cranking, voltage drops to 9.9 on the battery + terminal, then rises back.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what else I could check? I do not have access to an ociliscope, so my understanding is that there is no other way for me to check the CKP?

Looking for any other ideas for possible issues before I pull the PCM and get another.

Thanks,
Jahajazz
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:39 PM
  #2  
T/A KID's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,818
Likes: 2
Default

With hp tuners you can check Hi and Low Cam signals as well as Crank position sensor in the scanner, just have to add them to the table. If there not populating with numbers when trying to crank, then thats your problem.
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:55 PM
  #3  
jahajazz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Default

Unfortunately, I do not have EFIlive or HPtuners. Is there any other possible way to diagnose the CKP?
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 03:08 AM
  #4  
95mysticta's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 10
From: Oshawa, Ontario
Default

You dont need hp tuners to monitor those parameters. If you have a mechanic friend that will let you bring their scantool home with you to check those parameters to make sure you getting those signals. There is also a good chance you might have set a code which may help diagnosing the problem.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 10:48 AM
  #5  
jahajazz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Default

I hooked up to the PCM with my Actron scan tool, and it shows no codes from the PCM. It also shows RPM while cranking. Wish I had a friend who has access to a real scan tool, or EFILive or HPTuners, but I am SOL there.

Efi Connections recommend I pickup a simple cheap oscilloscope so I can see the CKP Waveform, and verify if the PCM is getting a correct signal there. Trying to see if I can get on in-town for under $200, but looking like I will need to go online and wait.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 06:52 PM
  #6  
flame's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,169
Likes: 3
From: Waterloo, Ontario
Default

If your scanner is showing rpm then you have crank signal. Pull a spark plug wire and see if you have spark. Is the pcm tuned for your injectors at LT1 fuel pressure?
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2012 | 07:05 PM
  #7  
green96ta's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
From: Kentucky
Default

Did you re wire your harness or purchase a new one? Have you checked for spark? Pull a plug and take a look at them....
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE