LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

idles too fast randomly

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 16, 2014 | 07:47 PM
  #1  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default idles too fast randomly

Hey guys. My 1995 TA M6 occasionally idles too fast. Maybe once or twice a month at the most. When it does it won't come down below 1100 or 1000 rpm. Normally it idles fine at around 800 rpm. I was driving around with the scanner in the car and it started idling around 1000 rpm. I looked at it and the only thing I noticed different was it showed that the throttle angle was 1%. Shut the car off for a few minutes and started it back up and then it showed throttle angle @ 0% and it was idling fine again at 800. TPS voltage is .58v regardless of throttle angle. Any ideas?
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 11:48 AM
  #2  
BALLSS's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,985
Likes: 112
Default

Originally Posted by SilverSS07
Hey guys. . TPS voltage is .58v regardless of throttle angle. Any ideas?
VDC should change from .67 vdc closed to 4.5 vdc full open with a "smooth" increase as you open throttle. Your TPS is bad or wiring if it just stays at .58 regardless of throttle position

your IAC could also be dirty/bad...but the vdc thing is not right on the TPS
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 01:08 PM
  #3  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default

Sorry I meant the tps voltage is the same whether it is idling at 800 or 1000. It does increase like it's supposed to. I cleaned the iac and put in a spare one I had with no change a few months ago.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 03:03 PM
  #4  
BALLSS's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,985
Likes: 112
Default

vacuum leak will cause high idle...check for those
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:06 PM
  #5  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default

Thanks yes I've checked all vacuum lines a few times. I would think if it was a vacuum line that it wouldn't do it occasionally though. I'm wondering if somehow the throttle blades are hanging up sometimes. It's hard to diagnose though because it doesn't do it all the time. It hasn't idled too fast at all in a few days now.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:07 AM
  #6  
cchvyd28's Avatar
Teching In
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Default

Does it seem to do it more after you go wide open throttle? I had a similar issue except it would idle even higher. Turned out the throttle cable bracket behind the brake booster on the fire wall was bent and sometimes hanging the throttle open just a tad.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 09:12 AM
  #7  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default

Originally Posted by cchvyd28
Does it seem to do it more after you go wide open throttle? I had a similar issue except it would idle even higher. Turned out the throttle cable bracket behind the brake booster on the fire wall was bent and sometimes hanging the throttle open just a tad.
No doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. I hardly ever go WOT. Drive like an old lady most of the time lol. I moved the TB manually back and forth and sprayed a little bit of WD40 where the spring is. I traced the cable back to the firewall but didn't see any bends/kinks/chafing or anything. Does anybody know how throttle angle is determined? The last time it was idling fast it showed throttle angle at 1% instead of 0.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 02:03 PM
  #8  
BALLSS's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,985
Likes: 112
Default

your IAC (idle air control) valve may be sticking or going bad.

Pull TB and them pull IAC and use TB cleaner and spray IAC valve clean and also spray clean the TB and re-install. You will need a new TB gasket

also do not push or pull printle of IAC or it will break

if IAC is sticking and holding a higher idle than the TPS would show a "x%" higher vdc as a result which may explain the 1% vdc reading you are seeing
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 06:10 PM
  #9  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default

Originally Posted by ******
your IAC (idle air control) valve may be sticking or going bad.

Pull TB and them pull IAC and use TB cleaner and spray IAC valve clean and also spray clean the TB and re-install. You will need a new TB gasket

also do not push or pull printle of IAC or it will break

if IAC is sticking and holding a higher idle than the TPS would show a "x%" higher vdc as a result which may explain the 1% vdc reading you are seeing
When the car was idling fast the tps voltage was .58v and the throttle angle showed 1%. When the car idles normal it showed .58v and 0% throttle angle. Any idea why it would show the same TPS voltage but different throttle angle? I don't know how it determines throttle angle. I have a spare IAC from another vehicle and I've switched them before with no difference. I checked the IAC counts before and they are normal. So far since spraying it with WD40 it hasn't done it again- but it would usually happen 1 or 2 times a month at most. I'm keeping the scanner in the car so when it happens again I can see if I notice anything else that's not normal.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 06:42 PM
  #10  
BALLSS's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,985
Likes: 112
Default

Originally Posted by SilverSS07
So far since spraying it with WD40 it hasn't done it again- .
well maybe your TB just was binding some from the spring/linkage area if WD 40 seems to have resolved

you have a stock or aftermarket TB?
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 07:03 PM
  #11  
SilverSS07's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 411
Likes: 1
From: Ocala Florida
Default

Stock TB. Not sure if that fixed it or not. Won't know unless it doesn't idle fast for a month or 2. Intermittent issues suck.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE