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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 03:21 PM
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Hello I am new to these forums. I am sorry if this is the wrong section but it seemed more specific to an LT1 camaro and most of the topics I already found existed within this section but they are old.
So I am considering getting a LT1 camaro with auto transmission and 165k mileage. I expect the car will need work but the seller has not stated anything wrong with it. I have been reading some posts stating this kind of car is worth $2k-$4.5k and that was like 10 years ago. So I just want to get an idea of what would you pay for a 165k LT1 camaro with auto transmission, little or no service records and ok condition?

Another question is, is there an alternative transmission to the T56 that could be used for a manual conversion?

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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 09:35 PM
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That price range seems normal for where I'm at, I'd offer 3k in my town for a decent looking one lol, but 165k is up there in mileage. What's the paint and interior condition? A/C and heater good? Stock or bolt ons? So many variables can determine the bottom line.
Tremec does offer the Magnum F series transmissions now as a upgrade from the T56 [basically a "TR6060/Magnum" swap] but at the least a T56 is all I would recommend for these cars [I wouldn't waste time with anything less than a 6 speed if you plan on swapping the auto out]
https://www.tremec.com/not_am_detall...-f-introduced/
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 94_LT1_TransAm
That price range seems normal for where I'm at, I'd offer 3k in my town for a decent looking one lol, but 165k is up there in mileage. What's the paint and interior condition? A/C and heater good? Stock or bolt ons? So many variables can determine the bottom line.
Tremec does offer the Magnum F series transmissions now as a upgrade from the T56 [basically a "TR6060/Magnum" swap] but at the least a T56 is all I would recommend for these cars [I wouldn't waste time with anything less than a 6 speed if you plan on swapping the auto out]
https://www.tremec.com/not_am_detall...-f-introduced/
so you would offer $3k for 165k mile one? I know these engines can run strong if serviced properly. Paint is fine but I have not seen the interior yet. I asked for more pictures but the seller hasn’t got back to me yet. Should I go lower than $3k if any of these problems exist? It’s a stock car with no mods. It’s going to be a 1 hr drive to see it so I wanted to get an idea before. People usually go for T56 as it can handle much more power but I really just wanted a manual V8 car which is why I was asking about the transmission swap.

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You will spend over 2k on the swap.
hold off for a 6 speed, ls or LT.
I purchased a 97 with a 6 speed in good shape (for 200k miles) for under 2k.
it was a 1LE also.
motor and tranny still going strong.
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AgFormula02
You will spend over 2k on the swap.
hold off for a 6 speed, ls or LT.
I purchased a 97 with a 6 speed in good shape (for 200k miles) for under 2k.
it was a 1LE also.
motor and tranny still going strong.
i been waiting for a manual to appear where I am since November last year lol. The swap was just an after thought really.
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Buy one (non-local) with a manual and have it shipped. It's not that expensive. Also make sure it hasn't been driven Winters in a state with snow.
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Originally Posted by mynameispiston
so you would offer $3k for 165k mile one? I know these engines can run strong if serviced properly. Paint is fine but I have not seen the interior yet. I asked for more pictures, if the dash is cracked and if the ac works but the seller hasn’t got back to me yet. Should I go lower than $3k if any of these problems exist? It’s a stock car with no mods. It’s going to be a 1 hr drive to see it so I wanted to get an idea before. People usually go for T56 as it can handle much more power but I really just wanted a manual V8 car which is why I was asking about the transmission swap.
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You will spend over 2k on the swap.
hold off for a 6 speed, ls or LT.
I purchased a 97 with a 6 speed in good shape (for 200k miles) for under 2k.
it was a 1LE also.
motor and tranny still going strong.
Not necessarily, there are soooo many variables that would consider the final bottom dollar. If that 165K car has vg paint and interior, absolutely id pay 3k, but if it has OK paint and interior I would pay less. but like AgFormula was saying, I would hold out for what you want personally instead of impulse buying lol
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Originally Posted by mynameispiston
so you would offer $3k for 165k mile one? I know these engines can run strong if serviced properly. Paint is fine but I have not seen the interior yet. I asked for more pictures, if the dash is cracked and if the ac works but the seller hasn’t got back to me yet. Should I go lower than $3k if any of these problems exist? It’s a stock car with no mods. It’s going to be a 1 hr drive to see it so I wanted to get an idea before. People usually go for T56 as it can handle much more power but I really just wanted a manual V8 car which is why I was asking about the transmission swap.
If what you want is a 6-spd don't settle on the auto. To convert to a 6-spd (especially if you hire out the labor), you would then be in a range of buying a better one to begin with. You may think you'll do the swap, but be realistic with your expectations and what you really want. There are parts lists and guides around to show what is needed for the swap. If you can live with an auto, do all the maintenance fixes first, then put a good converter in it. With 165,xxx miles on it you will have plenty of maintenance to do on it.

My car is a 96 with only 69,xxx miles on it but I still went through it and replaced all of the worn out components - engine mounts, plugs, wires, exhaust, brakes, worn suspension parts, all fluids, cooling system, vacuum hoses, etc. These cars are old now, even with lower miles like mine, parts get worn out. Make sure to account for these things.
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thanks guys. I am definitely not looking for a manual swap now.

So the car has had accidents in the past, it says oil pressure too low (red) and temperature too high (red/260F) at idle but it is fine when driving (temperature gauge was in the middle). From listening to the engine and seeing how it performs, the engine seems fine, no knocking noises and smooth. It might be sensor problems? Drove it for around 20 mins, never went to red line but did floor it a few times to see if it overheats or acts weird and it pulled well and did not seem to overheat. No signs of head gasket failure, cabin heat stays hot but dirty coolant expansion tank. It has small cracking paint patches here and there and other than the problems, this car is rare in my area, I am too tempted because I do expect such an old car with so many miles to have some issues. What do you guys think of the value now? I am leaning towards an impulse buy I don't know much about these cars though.

Work done to the car:

- Optispark issue fixed
- New brakes

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Originally Posted by mynameispiston
thanks guys. I am definitely not looking for a manual swap now.

So the car has had accidents in the past, it says oil pressure too low (red) and temperature too high (red/260F) at idle but it is fine when driving (temperature gauge was in the middle). From listening to the engine and seeing how it performs, the engine seems fine, no knocking noises and smooth. It might be sensor problems? Drove it for around 20 mins, never went to red line but did floor it a few times to see if it overheats or acts weird and it pulled well and did not seem to overheat. No signs of head gasket failure, cabin heat stays hot but dirty coolant expansion tank. It has small cracking paint patches here and there and other than the problems, this car is rare in my area, I am too tempted because I do expect such an old car with so many miles to have some issues. What do you guys think of the value now? I am leaning towards an impulse buy I don't know much about these cars though.

Work done to the car:

- Optispark issue fixed
- New brakes
You state the car has had accidents. What kind and what was the previous damage? That can open a whole new can of worms. I don't know what you are wanting to pay for it, but with the issues described I personally would keep looking unless you got it very cheap. It has high mileage, previous accidents and current issues. You will be sinking money into it for maintenance and repairs above what you are paying. If you can do all the work yourself and get it for cheap, go for it. If not, expect to fork out additional money on fixing issues. In the end, your money and your decision. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KB96Z28
You state the car has had accidents. What kind and what was the previous damage? That can open a whole new can of worms. I don't know what you are wanting to pay for it, but with the issues described I personally would keep looking unless you got it very cheap. It has high mileage, previous accidents and current issues. You will be sinking money into it for maintenance and repairs above what you are paying. If you can do all the work yourself and get it for cheap, go for it. If not, expect to fork out additional money on fixing issues. In the end, your money and your decision. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
One of them was a deer, the second one was a minor collision and don't know about the third one as it doesn't say. I can replace sensors and do general maintenance myself. Its just that these V8 camaros are rare to come by in my area and what is cheap for these cars? $1500-2000? I just want a realistic idea of the price so that I don't throw out ridiculous offers and sound like a d*ck which is why I started this thread.
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