LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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What kind of valvetrain is it gonna take for me to get my LT1 spinning this fast? I plan to turbo it and I want to make my turbo happy.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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wow 7100rpms??????????????????Why so much rmps?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Because I can . Not really, anything you can do to keep a load on your turbo for longer is a good thing, especially raising the RPM's. That not only extends the amount of time that the turbo is loaded but increases everyhting else with it, amount of exhaust, amount of air/fuel mixture burned, etc. Plus it sounds good and if you can make power all the way up there, why not?

But anybody know what setup these people are using? I hear you can get pretty good numbers with the AFR Hydrarev kit but what about a solid roller cam? What are the negatives on a solid roller?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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The constant adj. of a solid would make it a p.i.t.a but depending on your valve cover setup it don't have to be that bad... 7100? what size motor is this?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Just a 355. It can be done, I'm tryin to find a guy's post right now that has it in there.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Are you injected and running the stock PCM,if so you might have trouble spinning over 7000,I think that is where the tables run out!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Sounds unnecessary to me, but to each their own.
First, I think you should have your rotating assembly balanced, go with some very good aftermarket valves, valve springs and roller rockers. DO NOT SPARE ANY COST HERE. Get a big cam that has 7100 rpm's in the sweet spot, not at the float limit.
Then get out there, spin some rpm's and blow it. Repeat the rebuild, then get out there and blow it up again. Repeat steps over and over......
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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May wana ditch the opti and go coil conversion for those constant high RPMS, I've "heard" optis can have troubles in that range!
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I can build you a long block that'll spin that high for $350. Let me give you the address to send the cash......
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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It will take a V-TEC valvetrain you should just make the swap to a b16a. Just kidding lmao
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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well, I'm running a complete hydraulic setup in my 396 and have the rev limiter set at 7000. Everything is Comp Cams except for my Scorpion 1.7 roller rockers. The car makes great power, but the powerd begins to fall off at about 6750.
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Originally Posted by timelord
Are you injected and running the stock PCM,if so you might have trouble spinning over 7000,I think that is where the tables run out!
I was thinking the same thing, I thought the tables maxed at 7k on the lt1s. Im not sure why its really necessary to spin one higher than that but to each his one. However, I did spin mine to 6300-6500 sometimes w/my cc305 on 112 but It was topped out with that cam. Revved it that high untill 120k when i sold it, still working perfectly. All I have to say is that 355 better have a stronge *** bottom end to spin to 7100 under boost.
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I turn mine at 6950. Light valve train is the key, titanium retainers and locks goes along way not to mention valves. Just about anything that goes up and down needs to be lightened up. A good set of springs is a must to keep everything in contact.
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one phrase NHRA stock eliminator, for the bottom end, a ballenced short block will suvive season after season of 7100 rpm passes, just build a valve train thats up to it, and BTW, they have opti's too.
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I don't know anything about turbos but I always kinda assumed you wouldn't have to spin the engine too high with a turbo. I guess it depends on the size of the turbo you get.
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I'm not sayin Im gonna get a turbo that reaches full boost at 7K lord no.. just that the longer the turbo has a load on it, the longer you get the HP from the turbo.
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Originally Posted by TurboZ28
What kind of valvetrain is it gonna take for me to get my LT1 spinning this fast? I plan to turbo it and I want to make my turbo happy.

I have a Comp Cams solid roller cam, lifters & their stainless rockers, with Kmotion K9000 springs. No problem going 7250/7300, but so far that is all I have so far gotten a stock PCM to go. I shift mine at 7200, and go through the lights about 7100. You need to use 7/16" ARP studs, or shaft rockers. I use 225 lbs on the seat, and a tad over 620 lbs open pressure. Have had no problems since I got away from the factory hydraulic stuff.

Good luck, Ed
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboZ28
Because I can . Not really, anything you can do to keep a load on your turbo for longer is a good thing, especially raising the RPM's.
I'd disagree to this to an extent....it all depends on turbo choice and setup. There comes a point of diminishing returns with a turbo setup....if you're a Poopra with a big single then you want to spin as high as you can since your peak boost isn't at a decent RPM.

Unlike a S/C a turbo will make peak boost and start to fall off as you push the turbo out of its efficiency range. Saying that the longer you have a load on a turbo, the longer you make HP isn't alltogether the case, nor is it good. When driving the turbo out of where it is more efficient, you are creating more heat which is transferred into the charge and the gains you are going to see may not be worth it IMO.

Building the valvetrain and bottom end to hold the extra RPM's plus the added tuning and/or management for the extra few hundred RPM's just wouldn't be worth it unless you plan on having a big top end monster that is going to need every extra RPM you can give it.

From what you are saying, you don't want a top end turbo so why the extra money and hassles to build a setup that will spin to 7100 as opposed to 6600? You may want to decide on a turbo, check out the turbo map and see where you are going to start running into efficiency problems and work the setup around that.

I just don't think a few hundred RPM's are going to justify the costs.
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