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Running the LT1 without a serpentine belt?

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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gonna take the LT1 out for a final bracket race this weekend, and needed to know..other than no PS, having to run a charger on the batt., and not having the annoying squeal from my AC Compressor's bearings (whole reason Im doing this), what else will I lose....

water pump isn't belt driven, so temps should be fine....everything should run like normal, just no accessories, right??
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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AND NO ALTERNATOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure what mods you have done, But if you set up has a high demand for vlts. Then Doing so could casue problems.
But if you have a brand new battery , I think u should be fine. Take it off and take her up and down the street real quick.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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I know a guy that does it every race he enters!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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[QUOTE=96SCTA]AND NO ALTERNATOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE]ya, like i said, i will have a battery charger at the track with me to keep the charge up on it....i think it should make it from pits, to the staging lanes, down the track, and back w/o probs. my setup isnt anything crazy to need tons of voltage.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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I've always had problems with the car missing at high rpm's when I took the belt off, even with a relatively stock motor. Your results may vary though.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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For bracket racing I vote leave it on, only take it off if looking for a new personal best. The lower voltage can play games with a number of things on the car the ignition and injection being the more important ones.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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those were the answers i was looking for....thanks guys
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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yeah i wouldnt run spray with no belt in case of ignition issues
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Charge it between rounds and you will be fine. You dont lose that much voltage in the short times you are talking. I know guys running 7 series ignitions, nitrous, superchargers etc. without alternators.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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and im only going to be running NA.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 03:33 AM
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I never run a belt and I spray. You should pick up .15 at least. I've made 3 runs in a row without a belt (with parking lights on) with no problems.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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really, im gonna have to give it a try next time, we ended up getting rained out today
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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I tried it a few times and would consistantly pick up a .1 and 1 MPH. But it is a hassle to remove/replace it at the track.

But here's my racer's secret...the big drag on the belt is the alternator more than anything else. I learned I can leave the belt on and unplug the alternator so that is free-wheelin and pick up the same .1 and 1 MPH. A few TPI Corvette guys taught me this. I tried it on the dyno and picked up a solid 10 ft/pounds down low and 9 RWhp.

Of course, your results may vary. Good luck.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 94FBIRD
I tried it a few times and would consistantly pick up a .1 and 1 MPH. But it is a hassle to remove/replace it at the track.

But here's my racer's secret...the big drag on the belt is the alternator more than anything else. I learned I can leave the belt on and unplug the alternator so that is free-wheelin and pick up the same .1 and 1 MPH. A few TPI Corvette guys taught me this. I tried it on the dyno and picked up a solid 10 ft/pounds down low and 9 RWhp.

Of course, your results may vary. Good luck.
that's very interesting. I might have to try that as it's a pITA to remove my belt with my cold air box.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I might have to give this a try.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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i've heard of guys putting a switch in for their alternator so you can take the power out of it without even getting under the hood.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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I don't have a underdrive pulley and I bought a long thin serpentine belt removal tool.
It's not that hard. I've done it so many times, I can do it in the dark. Mustang 5.0 guys pick up .30 and 3mph.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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things to try next time i go out....thanks everyone!!
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Originally Posted by Fbody4Ever
i've heard of guys putting a switch in for their alternator so you can take the power out of it without even getting under the hood.
Yep, I just haven't actually installed a switch.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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I picked up .15 and 2 mph in back to back runs by taking the belt off on a friend's '97 Z28. On the dyno, I picked up 10 rwhp and 12 rwtq.
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