Is a K&N even worth the money?
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Is a K&N even worth the money? I have a "97 WS6 and the only thing I can find to do with it is get a K&N filter. I dont see any point of getting a CAI because it already has the ram air.
Will I feel any seat of the pants gain from this at all? Im installing a Magnaflow catback next week and that will the only thing ive done to it. I just dont want to waste my money on a K&N Filter and it not do anything for me. Thanks for the help guys!
Will I feel any seat of the pants gain from this at all? Im installing a Magnaflow catback next week and that will the only thing ive done to it. I just dont want to waste my money on a K&N Filter and it not do anything for me. Thanks for the help guys!
Originally Posted by 1993CaMaRoZ28ofIdAhO
Cold air, i hear is better then ram air.
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Originally Posted by akrobi00
So I wont see any difference in gain between an aftermarket CAI and the factory Ram Air. What about a K&N filter and an air foil?
The stock setup is more restrictive than whatever CAI you get. Also gets rid of the big ugly air box.
Usually aftermarket flows more air in (lids, Volant setup etc.) KN filters give some better flow definitively but these results vary a lot from car to car. Some people in pro drag racing even use the stock paper filter!!
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So if I would get more power getting rid of my factory ram air setup I will do it. What will I need beside the CAI kit, will I need the 1Le elbow as well. Reason im asking is because some people have told me to keep the ram air, a CAI wont make any noticable difference over the ram air. I dont know if these people know what there talking about.
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Brett Foote I think not. The stock system is too restrictive. Get the complete aftermarket system. You will see a better throtle response and a louder exhaust note (remeber motors are nothing more than air pumps, give it more cooler air=more horsepower)
My experience personally was a better cylinder burn with the ram air style (kinda made my own with a K&N cone and a "non functional" ram air hood). With the K&N FIPK, my back 4 plugs were always black. After the switch, my back 4 plugs were white like the front 4.
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i know exactly where it sits. no need to try and talk down to me just because you don't know who i am.
heat soak is much worse with the SS and if i had an LT1 SS then i would convert to a regular CAI, but not with a WS6. like i said gains are next to nothing. you can give me your theory on the differences, but in real life they account for almost nothing. i'm not just some n00b here.
heat soak is much worse with the SS and if i had an LT1 SS then i would convert to a regular CAI, but not with a WS6. like i said gains are next to nothing. you can give me your theory on the differences, but in real life they account for almost nothing. i'm not just some n00b here.
NO,No,No,No! IMO the best thing for you to do is install a K&N filter into the stock ramair box. That is how I run my car and have had both. The only people that I have seen switch are the ss camaro guys. That is because the hood pasages are designed very poorly and by design recieve quite a bit of heat soak.
Ram air comes from the fact that air is forced into the box at high speed. This is only so on the T/A model. The ss has the scoop too far back on the hood, keeping it out of the ait stream.
Ram air comes from the fact that air is forced into the box at high speed. This is only so on the T/A model. The ss has the scoop too far back on the hood, keeping it out of the ait stream.
Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
the CAI's very much so better than 'ram air'
Factory sits right ontop of the radiator, if you didnt know, those get hot, so your pumping hot air into the motor, thats bad.
Factory sits right ontop of the radiator, if you didnt know, those get hot, so your pumping hot air into the motor, thats bad.
As stated in my last post, the SS benefits because of it's poor design. The T/A will see a loss if anything.
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Originally Posted by Quickshotkimber
No way. It is a straight shot right into the TB on the T/A model. A CAI has much more area exposed in the engine compartment that can absorb heat.
As stated in my last post, the SS benefits because of it's poor design. The T/A will see a loss if anything.
As stated in my last post, the SS benefits because of it's poor design. The T/A will see a loss if anything.
well i don't agree with this, but it would be speculation, but based on good info. i think it would pick up some from going from stock ram air to CAI, but it would be a very small amount and to me not enough to justify getting a CAI.
just because it's a straight shot does not mean that is is smoother or better. the stock ram air setup is going to be more restrictive than a CAI.
the SS had the problems with heat soak because it sits right on top of the intake.
Originally Posted by RoAdRaGe912
well i don't agree with this, but it would be speculation, but based on good info. i think it would pick up some from going from stock ram air to CAI, but it would be a very small amount and to me not enough to justify getting a CAI.
just because it's a straight shot does not mean that is is smoother or better. the stock ram air setup is going to be more restrictive than a CAI.
the SS had the problems with heat soak because it sits right on top of the intake.
just because it's a straight shot does not mean that is is smoother or better. the stock ram air setup is going to be more restrictive than a CAI.
the SS had the problems with heat soak because it sits right on top of the intake.
One look under the hood of a ss and it is hard to figure out what they were thinking. The air actually has to ride through a good portion of ducting in the hood, make several complete 180* turns, then come back into the TB.
Originally Posted by Quickshotkimber
I should clarify. I have cut out the rain deflector and removed any restriction that was on the top of the box that retains the filter. I have heard accounts of people seeing 1 to 2 pounds of pos man pressure over 100mph.
One look under the hood of a ss and it is hard to figure out what they were thinking. The air actually has to ride through a good portion of ducting in the hood, make several complete 180* turns, then come back into the TB.
One look under the hood of a ss and it is hard to figure out what they were thinking. The air actually has to ride through a good portion of ducting in the hood, make several complete 180* turns, then come back into the TB.