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You lose that much torque from a cutout?

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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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I have a cutout on my 96 lt1 m6(CAI & Catback), and when driving w/ it closed, then opening the cutout from a stop I friggen stalled it!

There is a definite torque lose down low, not major major but enough to where you would stall it if you were not aware when letting out the clutch at low low speeds.

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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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there is something wrong with your can then because i have dual cutouts on mine and noticed no power loss and on the dyno I gained 3rwhp.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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mine pickes up nearly 20 Ft through the peak and over 10 the entire range.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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You may feel a loss of power, but Ellis corect me if Im wrong, I think it's been debated to death that the low end torque is just moved up in the powerband. it may feel slow but in reality it isnt
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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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i know what you mean man, i have a 2000 TA with LT's and cut-out and when i do close it (which is almost never) i can definaly fill the TQ increase down low.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by buffman
You may feel a loss of power, but Ellis corect me if Im wrong, I think it's been debated to death that the low end torque is just moved up in the powerband. it may feel slow but in reality it isnt

IF your car is tuned correctly that in mostly the case
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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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You don't "loose" anything. The tuned length of the exhaust is effectively shortened (caused by the lessened backpressure) which causes the exhaust to be tuned for a higher RPM band, thus raising it up.

Your ride is fine, and it's faster.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by buffman
You may feel a loss of power, but Ellis corect me if Im wrong, I think it's been debated to death that the low end torque is just moved up in the powerband. it may feel slow but in reality it isnt
yep


http://www.mofbody.com/blkchevyz/web...6hpnumbers.htm

you can see i lost a decent amount till 4k after that it was all gain

this was with 2 cut outs built into the y-pipe going to a 4 inch mufflex
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Before I put my cutout I talked to all my ls1 buddies from back in the day and it is all about placement. The closer to the headers you put it the more low end you will lose and more hp you will gain. The further back it goes the more torque you will keep but the power level will go down. I put mine just before the rearend and didn't notice any low end loss. With a CAI,GUTTED CAT,TB BYPASS{stock muffler} I ran a 13.99 at 100 with a 2.21 60ft. After the cutout I ran a 13.73 at 103 with a 2.20 60ft.
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BS! I gain TQ AND power from mine

If I can get some time onlys next time out I might try and get comparision runs back to back I know what the Dyno tell's (More TQ and HP) but I will try to get real world data

BTW Hooker LTs into 3in Y-pipe mating to a 4in and a 4in Dynomax Bullet then the Cut out and a SLP Duel duel
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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I might be on the mustang dyno on sat. Being I"m a cheap bastard who will only pay $50 for a fancy chart, I'll do one run open, and one run closed. See what I come up with
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Old May 18, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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If you don't gain from the cutout that means your exhuast is flowing very well. If you gain alot then your is exhaust is a major restriction. I gained 25 rwhp 18 rwtq with a cutout over stock catback. That was with a cam putting down 346 rwhp 338 rwtq cutout open. A bolt on car putting out 300 rwhp won't gain as much because the extra flow isn't needed. As for losing low end torque it was gone when the cam went in anyway. At the track you launch at a higher rpm and don't have to worry about that.
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