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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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i was wanting to put the 97 style dash and cluster in a ealier LT1 and i was wondering if the cluster would hook strait up or would u have to convert it alot since it looks completly different amd digial miles an man. for the older

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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anyone got any Input on this?
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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you would have to have a 96
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
you would have to have a 96
not true bro.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476455

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...wap+conversion

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...wap+conversion

alot of threads on it there. I think someone also did a ls1 gauge swap.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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I have a 1996 Formula. I was told that the only gauge cluster that will just magically snap into palce without any modifications is the 1997 digital gauge. I was informed that the LS1 gauges will not work, but Ill be trying it shortly anyways.

Where can I get the new cluster reflashed to reflect my current odometer reading?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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The Odometer is in the Computer...the Cluster just displays it.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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You can do the swap all years so long as you use a 97 cluster, just 93s have a problem due to the tach filter, I had a 97 in mine and the tach didnt work at all.
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I've been wanting to do this ever sence i got the 94, too bad i cant get one here, and shiping one is not an options, its to friggin big.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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i was wondering can a 97+ cluster for a firebird or trans am work in a 94 firebird.
i really want a 155mph cluster but i cannot find a pre 97 cluster for my car.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
The Odometer is in the Computer...the Cluster just displays it.
I dont think that is correct.
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So will a 1999 cluser work in a 1996? How about a 98 cluster in a 96 or a 97? Im confused as to the compatibility of the clusters.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by scrmnws6
So will a 1999 cluser work in a 1996? How about a 98 cluster in a 96 or a 97? Im confused as to the compatibility of the clusters.
You can make it work. In the links I posted the wiring diagrahm is posted. Only issue with using a ls1 cluster is the reading will be off but I was told any good tuner could fix this in the tune. Never seen it done yet though.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
I dont think that is correct.
K.. I haven't seen a digital one out of a car. I have a 95, still oldschool.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
You can make it work. In the links I posted the wiring diagrahm is posted. Only issue with using a ls1 cluster is the reading will be off but I was told any good tuner could fix this in the tune. Never seen it done yet though.
What readings will be off? My tach on the stock clluster is off by 200 rpms at idle and 500rpms at 6800 actual engine rpms.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by scrmnws6
What readings will be off? My tach on the stock clluster is off by 200 rpms at idle and 500rpms at 6800 actual engine rpms.
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the ls1 dash will have different pulse division and the outputs on the pcm will have to be rescaled. constants have to be adjusted. As far as i know tunercat should have them in the 94-95 eeb file. there should be a tach ouput pulse divisor and a speedometer output pulse divisor.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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wow it would be awesome to use the 97 digital odometer dash in my 95 trans am! minor rewireing is okay is it a big rewire?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by maybe2fast
wow it would be awesome to use the 97 digital odometer dash in my 95 trans am! minor rewireing is okay is it a big rewire?
Simple as repinning. Hard part is finding a 97 digi cluster

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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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if the Odometer # is kept in the PCM, that would make it extremely easy tp fake the miles on your car. A quick reflash, or a new PCM, and your at zero miles. that doesn't seam like the way it would be. Also, when I was talking to a guy about buying his LT1 sedan, he told me the car had 20k more miles than the OD refected, due to the cluster going out, and him replacing it. It was a digi ODmeter.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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What are you talking about? It would be better if the computer did keep miles. Right now all you have to do is swap clusters to fake people out.
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