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sheikss Dec 16, 2006 02:04 PM

Kook's Headers
 
Well went to install my kook's stepped headers and the right fit with no problems the left one thought acts like it is for a totally different car. I can't even bolt it on because it hits the K-member anyone had this problem before? In order for me to get these to fit I would have to replace my canton oil pan and move the oil filter. I was going to run pacesetter and had them one with no problem now the left kook's is totally screwed.

Ls1Bait Dec 16, 2006 02:13 PM

When I installed my hooker long tubes I had unbolt a motor mount and jack the motor up slightly to get the header in. I was in the instructions that came with them. Did you get any?

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 02:49 PM

I've got my whole k-member out of the car. Did you have the k out too?

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 03:30 PM

tried it and didn't work it hits the oil pan and I would have to go to a dry sump oil system. I had pacesetters on it and had no problems what so ever now these $1100 headers aren't fittin. :bang:

Ls1Bait Dec 16, 2006 03:33 PM

In your first post you said it was hitting the k-member. And no I had everything in when I put my headers on. Not sure what you have goin on really, any pics?

It sounds like it might be the wrong header in general. Contact kooks about this. I run a canton 6-quart oil pan and hooker LT's with no problems.

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 03:52 PM

I'm thinking the header is wrong also. The right fit with no problem but the left? I've called and left a message so hopefully I'll get a call from them. It kills me that I'm almost ready to stab it in and this and the ARP balancer crap with they sent me the wrong one. I will never do a lt1 again that's for sure, :lol:

Houdini Dec 16, 2006 04:49 PM

When I installed mine, the drivers side went in without a hitch, and the passenger side was a bitch. I needed to unbolt the motor mount and jack up that side of the engine, also pulled some crap off the front of the engine to make life a little easier... but from the start it appeared like it would fit.

Sounds like you were given the wrong header for the passenger side.

Jditlfm Dec 16, 2006 04:52 PM

it sounds like they gave you a ls1 header, they tilt into the engine i believe

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 05:53 PM

No it's a lt1 header looks just like the on in the picture on their website. I think it was bent wrong or something.

97LT1 Dec 16, 2006 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by sheikss
No it's a lt1 header looks just like the on in the picture on their website. I think it was bent wrong or something.

I would call them and see what they say.

They are supposed to be great for fitament.
I am curious because I am going to be going with the same exact header soon.

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 06:48 PM

I'll let you know.

-PEPE- Dec 16, 2006 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by sheikss
Well went to install my kook's stepped headers and the right fit with no problems the left one thought acts like it is for a totally different car. I can't even bolt it on because it hits the K-member anyone had this problem before? In order for me to get these to fit I would have to replace my canton oil pan and move the oil filter. I was going to run pacesetter and had them one with no problem now the left kook's is totally screwed.

Have the KOOKS & LT1 Canton pan also.

* First off my KOOKS were resting on the hex plug we had to install in place of the Low Oil Level Sensor (will not fit with Canton's pan and KOOKS) and then we still had to shave about 1/2 of the hex head off for absolute clearance.

* I was on travel when GForce installed the KOOKS on the 396, so can't say how they dropped them in. Call GForce (281)993-5451 ask for Jay and if he can give you a quick tip on what he did for install and also ask him for the correct oil filter p/n, standard lt1 filters will no longer fit with the kooks due to where the primaries sit, I believe it's like a Suburban oil filter (97 or so).

* Your KOOKS stepped headers are a better performance header over Pace's especially for strokers, as for fitup, I've always heard they fitup easier than most, but when you start running custom pans as always there are challenges.

sheikss Dec 16, 2006 06:54 PM

Cool I call them on monday did you loose the low oil sensor all togather or just relocate it?

-PEPE- Dec 16, 2006 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by sheikss
Cool I call them on monday did you loose the low oil sensor all togather or just relocate it?

If you figure out the resistance you can just jump the contacts where it plugs into the sensor itself and you'll lose the low oil light on your dash. You can relocate it on the pan while the pan is off if you think you need a sensor.

I check mine constantly along with everything else and use redundant gauges, etc.

NHRAMAN Dec 16, 2006 09:35 PM

...I cannot believe the posts about Kooks , and QTP....fitment problems left and right...my Edelbrocks, and it seems Pacesetters seem to go in fine...WHATS THE DEAL WITH THESE REAL EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS..???

sheikss Dec 17, 2006 02:14 PM

Alright took your advice BRETTINATOR and now everything works. Still got to call G-Force and find out what filter to use. What balancer are you using and aren't you using the dynaspark also?

-PEPE- Dec 18, 2006 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by sheikss
Alright took your advice BRETTINATOR and now everything works. Still got to call G-Force and find out what filter to use. What balancer are you using and aren't you using the dynaspark also?

ATI SuperDamper 20% u/d, I was using the LTCC setup but it no likey my OBDII PCM, going with a different setup when the FAST gets here.

ABA383 Dec 18, 2006 08:40 AM

If you're running the stepped Kooks you need the AC PF454 oil filter...Thats the one I use and it clears everything fine...Now I have a stock oil pan, but the PF454 is small enough to clear the big header tube and makes for easy servicing...

--Alan

sheikss Dec 18, 2006 10:48 AM

ABA383 thanks and these headers are a tight fit I need to message the heat shields around the collector and the steering knuckle is going to be really really close it looks. If any of you guys can send me a pic of how close your st. knuckle is I sure would apperciate it. BRETTINATOR do you remember the part number for your balancer?

-PEPE- Dec 18, 2006 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by sheikss
ABA383 thanks and these headers are a tight fit I need to message the heat shields around the collector and the steering knuckle is going to be really really close it looks. If any of you guys can send me a pic of how close your st. knuckle is I sure would apperciate it. BRETTINATOR do you remember the part number for your balancer?

I can get it for you after lunch, I don't think I have any pics that close for the steering knuckle I don't think, but it clears just fine. You did pull the steering knuckle to install it right?


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