LLoyd Elliot any one?
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Not everyone is setting their car up for the drag strip though. 
But I do have every supporting mod except an e-wp since that will make me overheat on the road coarse.
But I do have every supporting mod except an e-wp since that will make me overheat on the road coarse.--Alan
Originally Posted by ABA383
Oh thats right, sorry, I forgot about you guys who are coordinated enough to go fast and turn.....hahahaha..Not me....I just floor the damn thing and scream like a woman for 11 seconds (kinda like I did on my honeymoon...) You know what I mean...
--Alan
--Alan
Alan,
That is mint man.
Can you imagine the slower guys at the track? I mean the guys running 19.00? They scream for 11 seconds and catch their breathe for 2 then continue screaming till the trapsl
Tony.
Yep....About the same as trying to kill yourself by jumping off a wayyyyyy tall building....Its got to be embarrassing as hell to take a breath between screams on the way down....
--Alan
--Alan
Originally Posted by ABA383
Oh thats right, sorry, I forgot about you guys who are coordinated enough to go fast and turn.....hahahaha..Not me....I just floor the damn thing and scream like a woman for 11 seconds (kinda like I did on my honeymoon...) You know what I mean...
--Alan
--Alan
lol! 
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You guys need to get back on the subject. Any other whp #'s out there. what about the LE3 kit. Is it worth the extra money for about 10-15 hp gain? What about the setups on a .060 over motor with higher compression?I know a lot of his #'s are on stock bottom ends. LLoyd are you out there? I will be sending my heads up there on Saterday. I will hand them to him personally but i would still like to here some storys.
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I'm running close to 11.4:1 compression with Lloyd's small emissions cam. If I were building an LE3 cammed car with a new bottom end, I would shoot for 12:1. According to the experts (LE), LT1s will handle 12:1 on 93 pump gas with larger cams. Your cam choice should be a topic of discussion with Lloyd when you drop the heads off.
Originally Posted by ZEX-Z
You guys need to get back on the subject. Any other whp #'s out there. what about the LE3 kit. Is it worth the extra money for about 10-15 hp gain? What about the setups on a .060 over motor with higher compression?I know a lot of his #'s are on stock bottom ends. LLoyd are you out there? I will be sending my heads up there on Saterday. I will hand them to him personally but i would still like to here some storys.
Anyways, hardly anyone goes .060 over on their motor, many LT1 blocks won't even pass the sonic check to do it.
I'm running ~11.5:1 compression on a .030 LT1.
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
Do you want a dyno queen or quarter mile times? Lloyd's stuff is good, the question is are you willing to go all the way to get the most out of the setup?
or are you looking for all out ***** to the wall drag racing with no concern for DD?
(Or something in between)
I won't lie to you, bragging right sometimes outweight having to put up with
poor street manners. The older I get, the more I lean towards giving up a
few HP and .10ths for every day driveability.
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From: NJ
Originally Posted by James Montigny
Moreover, are you looking for street manners with respectable 1/4 times and dyno numbers
or are you looking for all out ***** to the wall drag racing with no concern for DD?
(Or something in between)
I won't lie to you, bragging right sometimes outweight having to put up with
poor street manners. The older I get, the more I lean towards giving up a
few HP and .10ths for every day driveability.
or are you looking for all out ***** to the wall drag racing with no concern for DD?
(Or something in between)
I won't lie to you, bragging right sometimes outweight having to put up with
poor street manners. The older I get, the more I lean towards giving up a
few HP and .10ths for every day driveability.
). That's one reason Lloyd recommeded a small emissions cam for my setup. The return is a very flat torque curve all the way through the usable RPM range. It makes no less than 350 lb-ft of TQ from 2000 through 5700rpms with a peak of 366 lb-ft. The car pulls HARD from 1500 to 6500 rpms.Attention to detail and the combination of supporting parts is the key to exceptional performance. That's why you should figure on 2x the estimated cost!!
Last edited by 95ZRagtop6M; Mar 27, 2007 at 09:05 AM.
I will say this, we put the le3 cam, le2 heads on my buddies 355 and with NO TUNING AT ALL it drove A LOT better than a cc306 car. We were shocked at how little surging it actually had. He just has a base pcmforless tune and it has pretty much no surging, I wouldn't be scared of a le3 cam at all for driveability.
Originally Posted by ZEX-Z
You guys need to get back on the subject. Any other whp #'s out there. what about the LE3 kit. Is it worth the extra money for about 10-15 hp gain? What about the setups on a .060 over motor with higher compression?I know a lot of his #'s are on stock bottom ends. LLoyd are you out there? I will be sending my heads up there on Saterday. I will hand them to him personally but i would still like to here some storys.
that demanding **** needs to go..ask peoples opinions and thing but dont demand information and tell people what to do..its not the way to get results around here...
works well also since you have to have an immediate response..
Originally Posted by skinnies
I will say this, we put the le3 cam, le2 heads on my buddies 355 and with NO TUNING AT ALL it drove A LOT better than a cc306 car. We were shocked at how little surging it actually had. He just has a base pcmforless tune and it has pretty much no surging, I wouldn't be scared of a le3 cam at all for driveability.
I have seen LE2 headed cars with the LE1 cam, LLyods done good for a lot of the LT1 guys, I know a few folks personally who ran his heads. Lot of how well the car runs is about how well it sets up as a complete package and it isnt to going to get there if you half *** it like so many do, thats why you see 12.50@109 h/c LT1s and thats the same reason you see 10 sec LT1 H/C cars. An Lt1 is a SBC, you can get it to make the power, just is the rest of the car there to get the most out of it? Most cases it isnt
Originally Posted by ZEX-Z
So you like the LE3 cam. It's worth the money? So why does everyone put the LE3 cam on the LE2 heads?
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It seems that the high dynoing h/c cars are m6s. What are the guys making through converters and a4s. I would love to be able to making 380-390 rwhp on a mustang dyno through my a4 without much loss of driveability from my current setup.
My old setup with the le1.5 heads and small Joe O cam did 384rwhp, the camaro(ls1) did 356rwhp through the pt4000(LOOSE) stall and no tune, but did run quicker than the lt1.
Screw dyno #'s, track is what is important.
Screw dyno #'s, track is what is important.