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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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How late did they put the LT1's in the vette's?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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At least it is a 6 speed vette that would be traded, my friend has a 94 vette, auto, well he has stock gears and they suck. 0-60 is like 7 seconds, then 60-150 is stupid quick.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
If you ran high 14s then something was not running right or you couldn't hook or something else.

low 14s is the normal stock time for a car with no issues.
The 93's tend to be a little more timid is stock form.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
yes sir
well than i always thought IRS's were horrible for launching. how do they have a traction advantage?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Agree'd about the shifting. It takes a pretty good driver to get 1.9 60's out of "stock" tires without getting into the sticky "dot" stuff.

Vette IRS's aren't like Ford IRS's. Don't ask me why Ford didn't get smart and copy the Vette design and geometry for the cobra's. A solid axle is nice when the antisquat geometry is optimized, But Vette's put it down pretty good stock. You'll see a 4 link section underneath and the brackets were changed several times to change the anti squat geometry on the c4 vette's over the years. It's not until the high tens that things start breaking. Even then it's not the axles, but the fact that the front of the Dana 44 housing is supported by an arm that runs to the tranny and the whole car twists enough that it breaks the housing at that mounting point. Roll cage work that supports the housing better helps.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 97REDZ28
How late did they put the LT1's in the vette's?
'96
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well than i always thought IRS's were horrible for launching. how do they have a traction advantage?
im not sure if the do or they dont, but stock vs stock if the vette does hook better its due to the fatter tires id imagine
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LT1Falcon
do the LT1 vettes have IRS's?
Vetts got "IRS" in 1963 to go with the new body, and have yet let go of it.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
'96

im not sure if the do or they dont, but stock vs stock if the vette does hook better its due to the fatter tires id imagine
I was told that the 1995 had the LT-5/ the only year, or am I wrong on that having an LT. I was under the impression that 1992 or '93 was the intro to the LT-1 motor.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 94 F-body
I was told that the 1995 had the LT-5/ the only year, or am I wrong on that having an LT. I was under the impression that 1992 or '93 was the intro to the LT-1 motor.
The base Vette's all had the LT1 motor, until 1997.
97 was the first year of the LS1. It didn't arrive in the Fbody until 98. Gm have always done that kind of thing.

The LT5 you speak of is in a Vette known as the ZR1. I am not sure exactly what years they made it, but they are pretty rare.
Another engine that made its way into the Vette during the early to mid 90's was the LT4.

I wish they had put more LT4's in fbody, except just for a select few. Production expenses stopped that from happening among other things, but that would have been sweet.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 94 F-body
I was told that the 1995 had the LT-5/ the only year, or am I wrong on that having an LT. I was under the impression that 1992 or '93 was the intro to the LT-1 motor.

The ZR-1 had the LT-5 from 1990 (when it came out) to 1995 when it was last produced. From '90 to '92 the LT-5 was rated at 375 horse, and from '93 to '95 it was rated at 405 horse.

The LT1 came in the Vette in '92, one year before it debuts in the Camaro/Trans Am. In 1996, the LT-4 was an option for the Corvette with the exception of the '96 Grand Sport. All Grand Sport's came factory with an LT-4 along with other performance enhancements.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1Falcon
do the LT1 vettes have IRS's?
Every Vette since 1963 has come with IRS! The stock rear in an automatic C4 vette (84-96) is known/prone to fail behind modified engines. A common upgrade is to swap the rear from a 85-96 manual transmission C4.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Built LT1
The ZR-1 had the LT-5 from 1990 (when it came out) to 1995 when it was last produced. From '90 to '92 the LT-5 was rated at 375 horse, and from '93 to '95 it was rated at 405 horse.

The LT1 came in the Vette in '92, one year before it debuts in the Camaro/Trans Am. In 1996, the LT-4 was an option for the Corvette with the exception of the '96 Grand Sport. All Grand Sport's came factory with an LT-4 along with other performance enhancements.
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All 1996 Corvettes equiped with a manual transmisson came with the LT4; the A4 cars came with LT1s. GS's are basically a cosmetic package with bigger rear tires but since they were a limited edition that looks cool, they go for a lot more money than a similarly equiped 96 M6 car.

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Thanks for the info. I've got a guy that wants to trade me a very low milage 6 speed LT1 Vette for my 2000 WS6. I was wondering what the performance diff was. I had a 95 Z28 with a couple of bolt ons & it would run 13.8 to 14.0. I always thought that an LT1 Vette would run about the same as a stock LS1 Fbody mid to high 13's. I'm probably crazy to even consider doing the swap. Thanks!
If the low mileage vette is in great shape I'd go for it. What year is it? As time went on the C4 evolved into a better car for example in, 1995 every C4 came with the J55 brake package (same as ZR1), 1994 has sequential fuel injection.


There are some things that are budget killers, make sure that the interior and weather stripping is in great shape. You can easily spend a grand on reupholstering the seats and almost the same on weather strip. I won't even mention the "corvette tax" on body work and paint.


However, they handle great and 150mph is anti-climatic in a well maintained C4. If your into driving the quarter mile or into dynoracing stick with the F-Body. For some reason corvettes seem to dyno lower than there quarter mile times suggest and the LSX is a monster when modded. If your planning on performing a LSX implant on a C4 be forewarned its not as easy as it is in the F-bodies.


Good luck!


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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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I looked at the car this weekend. I was very dissapointed. I didn't think the paint looked that great & the seats didn't look to be in great shape. The car felt very strong, but I would not give up my 2000 WS6 for this car. My problem now is I've got the fever for another car. I guess I will start looking at some C5 Vette's. Thanks for all the input.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleRedZ
most of the people that run mid 14s are stick and cant drive
I guess my car was a ringer
13.9@100 1.97 60ft temp tags, absolutly stock 40k miles
13.6@102.5mph 2 weeks later cold air+underdrive pulley -cars auto w/ 2.73s
12.95@105.9mph a year later nitto drs,2800stall,exhaust,stock manifolds still, 1.6 RRs
Just curious, do you remember what your 60' was when you ran 12.95? I'm wondering how much of that number is due to the stall and Nittos. I would love to believe I could get into the twelves with just a catback and some bolt ons, but somehow I don't think it would work like that.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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if i am not mistaken, the lt1's in the vette's had 4 bolt mains as opposed to the 2 bolt main's in the f body engines
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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can a stokk lt1 keep up with a stokk ls1?? pm me if u know alot i have questions
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Originally Posted by xxtrevorxx
can a stokk lt1 keep up with a stokk ls1?? pm me if u know alot i have questions
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ok sorry about that. its just that people get killed for asking something like that on a new thread. look at the sticky befor the moderators get you. and no, stock for stock, LS1's will beat an LT1 any day
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xxtrevorxx
can a stokk lt1 keep up with a stokk ls1?? pm me if u know alot i have questions
Absolutely. Stock LT1s embarass stock LS1s on a regular basis. This is a well known fact, and you should not hesitate to place bets on drag races based on this. Many people believe differently, do not let them tell you otherwise. They are probabaly not aware that the muffler bearings used on the LT1 powered cars offer much lower restriction that the newer ones used on LS1s, giving the LT1 a huge advantage.
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Originally Posted by Formula413
Absolutely. Stock LT1s embarass stock LS1s on a regular basis. This is a well known fact, and you should not hesitate to place bets on drag races based on this. Many people believe differently, do not let them tell you otherwise. They are probabaly not aware that the muffler bearings used on the LT1 powered cars offer much lower restriction that the newer ones used on LS1s, giving the LT1 a huge advantage.
lol, muffler bearings? i thought i was the unique formula of blinker fluid that gave LT1's the edge
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