Stroker396@APF

iTrader: (18)

I had the same thought and went with the 58mm but i have a buddy who is running a 396 on a 52mm and making big numbers with LE2 heads and a cc306 and 1.6rr so it seams that is not the most restrictive point.

LT Malice

iTrader: (3)

I'd rather just buy your car than start modding another, but I don't have any cash until I sell my V6. Lets be honest, who wants to buy that!

I want a tried and true package that has worked for lots of people before me. I tried to be a pioneer with my v6, and while it is powerful, it requires too much maintenence. I want a car that i can run hard and put away wet.

BLACKSHARK-
I know exactly how you feel. Thats how my V6 is. I'm really trying to avoid that if I go the LT1 route. I want to just buy EVERYTHING I need all at once, install it, and be done.

cody161

iTrader: (18)

o yea i put a spec stage 3 in my car and for like the first 800 miles is sucked ***** but u just have to give them time to break in. yea it still chatters some but its a performance clutch what do u expect, i love the SPEC stage 3 clutch IMO

Stroker396@APF

iTrader: (18)

Unless you buy someones modded car all tuned perfect.
1. It will cost a pretty penny because as stated one mod requires another.
2. They never run the same as stock again
3. lose their reliablity

But a lot of fun along the way.

Gun5

iTrader: (37)

but is it RESTRICTIVE at all.. its only like $20 more for the 58 but i gotta do the hassle of the port job and such or i could just throw it on there but then it would have a "shelf" or whatever..

Stroker396@APF

iTrader: (18)

Well of course it is restrictive, any intake you will have to port for either size TB (Duh right) You have to make sure that you have the right part for the application. Otherwise no one would have made a 52mm (the whole bigger isn't always better). As far as the port job for the TB that can be done yourself with a dremel and the right bit, easy job.

97blackz28

iTrader: (6)

the stock TB opening is 52mm, so no porting is required for the 52mm TB

Stroker396@APF

iTrader: (18)

My bad you are correct. I made the mistake of assuning that since the stock TB is 48mm that the opening was the same but it is not.

streetwarrior96

Cammed95Z28

Full bolt ons, decent sized heads cam combo. Not too hard if you do it right and don't cut corners.

infinitebird

iTrader: (11)

I agree with the others that said to stay away from the edelbrock heads. Stay with ported stockers or if you want an aftermarket casting go with trickflows.

Gun5

iTrader: (37)

that's why im leaning towards that.. i got all the tools todo the porting no prob just the hassle

GGPC

I have a 93 vette and with the top end package I have it gave me 422.6whp. I went with afr 195cc heads with 2.05/1.6 valves(comp. pkg). Hydralic roller cam from comp. 232/240 .535/.545, hydralic roller lifters, 1.6rrs,shorty headers,52mm tb which flows close to 900cfm, slp exhaust and vortex ram air.I went with 32lb inj.Thats on 36 degrees advanced and a 13:1 a/f mixture. Afr is alot more hype then results? yeah,sure. I know AI does good work but come on. The hp chevy high performance magazine gets with all of the afr heads they use are amazing. The dyno numbers dont lie. AI may be the cheaper way to go, but when your talking about a project like this one, you dont cut corners.

96capricemgr

iTrader: (1)

Still ported heads and a HOT cam aint going to do it. The HOT cam is popular because it gets a lot of press, not because it is all that wonderful, it is fine but not great as most mistake it for.


GGPC, we don't race dynos and most of you are incapable of understanding the HUGE amount of power lost going from an engine dyno with all the tricks to RWHP numbers.

To get 400rwhp through an automatic a motor without accessories and withough intake and exhaust restriction will have to make about 520hp or so. For a magazine they will play games to inflate numbers beyond this level. Loose clearances, ice, spark and fuel set unsafe for actual in car use etc. Flat out magazines LIE to get advertizer dollars, simple as that.

RealQuick

iTrader: (14)

Ported stock heads and a good cam will make 400rwhp no problem. Sounds like your heads have minor work done... a full port is key.

97blackz28

iTrader: (6)

i think he was talking about unported stock heads. a good set of stock ported heads will flow enough air for well over 400 rwhp with the right set up. the trick is setting everything up to run at it's peak in conjunction with all the other parts and not in conflict with everything else on the car. 400 rwhp is not exactly easy but it is very achievable if you do your homework and don't skimp or try to do it "cheap"

and i would have to agree a hotcam is not going to get you to 400rwhp even with ported heads, get a custom grind cam to work well with your heads and other mods as well and that will make it's power and torque where you want it.

GGPC

I run a A4 in my vette.With 3.73 gears and a 2800tc. Last time at the track with mts, I ran 11.83@117.3.Thats with a 3102lb vette. The parts and tune I used were right out of the mag. When I want to take a trip,I just switch chips.No big whoop. And most of you? I really like to know who your clumping me in with?

streetwarrior96

well for us f-body and b-body guys you got us by 500 lbs. 96capricemgr car weighs 4000 lbs and runs what you run. Remember sometimes HP don't mean much at the track. I've never seen and Hot cam setup hit 400 + at the wheels

GGPC

With that trap speed I should be in the mid 11's but I fell asleep at the tree. I just cant launch worth a ****. I'll admit it.

roadhog_113

I got 415rwhp on a 93 z28 and here is a list of my engine mods. Thought you might want some input that is actually backed up.
NUTEK/Jason Short heads
Port matched, ported 58mm TB holes, and painted Intake manifold
Holley 58mm TB
Lucas 38lb Injectors
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
BLUECAT tune
Moroso CAI
MSD coil
Accel wires
NGK TR-6 plugs
MSD digital 6A ignition
MSD 2 stage timing controller
Comp Cams cc306 camshaft
Comp Hi-Tec chrome-moly pushrods
Comp roller lifters
Comp Pro-Magnum 1.6 NSA roller rockers
Combination Motorsports dual valve springs
Chrome-moly retainers
Comp 10* locks and locators
Comp rocker studs
GMPP guideplates
Meziere electric water pump
Pacesetter ceramic-coated longtube headers