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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ABA383
Dynos are nice, but they are a tuning tool...If the tune is spot on then you should have fun with it...12.8:1 a/f is a good safe ratio (its what I run)...You'd laugh at my dyno numbers, but I trap just shy of 120...For the most part dyno numbers themselves don't mean too much to me...

I would look into a converter though, it would help your car out a lot...Check out something that stalls between 500-900 rpm below your torque peak....

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Good to know that 12.8 is good and what you run. Yea I agree with the track times proving the performance more so than dyno numbers. A converter will be my next mod, I need to get my torque graph so I can pick out the proper converter.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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All dyno's are different.

I think 330rwhp for that car and mods is pretty damn good, good luck with'er stealth at the 1320.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
I dont have a converter. The elevation is at 300 some feet. It put down 316rwhp and with tuning ended up with 328rwhp. My A/F is 12.8. It was run on the dyno in 3rd Gear and up to 5900rpm. I thought 350rwhp was more for the 6 speed guys not the A4's? I'll post up the graph tomorrow.
Your numbers are fine. Autos are not dyno queens, and those numbers are perfectly average, and just getting off then back on the dyno can change the numbers. Nothing to be concerned about.

Originally Posted by ABA383
Dynos are nice, but they are a tuning tool...If the tune is spot on then you should have fun with it...12.8:1 a/f is a good safe ratio (its what I run)...You'd laugh at my dyno numbers, but I trap just shy of 120...For the most part dyno numbers themselves don't mean too much to me...

I would look into a converter though, it would help your car out a lot...Check out something that stalls between 500-900 rpm below your torque peak....

--Alan
Once again, well said!

Autos dont need 400rwhp to run good times. An auto with lots of stall+gear with 320hp to the wheels will surprise the hell out of a 400rwhp 6speed in the 1/4.

Also, the area under the curve is very important. Dyno curves that look like the side view of an arrowhead are no good for the track, and no fun on the street.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Congrats on the cam. I want a 503 as well.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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I don't think the numbers are bad considering the temperature.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Numbers are fine, autos don't dyno well at all. I'm sure hes stock headed or he would have put down what heads he was running. It'll make more power in colder weather, get a Converter asap, who cares what it dynoes, it'll never put up the M6 numbers people love to go by, so long as it runs what it should who cares. With a good converter and tire, your car would hit bottom 12s.

Originally Posted by Mighty Whitey

like everyone else says, numbers on the dyno don't matter. numbers on the track do.
Every dyno is different. A dyno will give you a pretty good idea of how your car will perform, and is an excelent tuning too when used with the right software (and tuner). You do not race on dynos, you race at the track (or the street Are there other cars that have dynoed at the same shop that you can compare yours to?


BTW, When you put a converter in it your numbers will probably go down, but your performance will improve.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1 Eddie
I don't think the numbers are bad considering the temperature.

Temp has no effect, it gets corrected
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Not bad numbers. Just get it to the track and see how it does.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cammed95Z28
Temp has no effect, it gets corrected

They correct numbers to SAE, not temp.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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and no one noticed that the dyno seemed to be in someones garage....is that right??
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
They correct numbers to SAE, not temp.
SAE calculations include a temperature conversion.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hvyss
I love my 503. With it and the supporting mods and LE2 heads in a 4400 lb boat it turned a 12.18@112. With the hp calulator off the camaro forum it calulated to a little over 400RWHP. It idles good and makes good low end power. Which is what I need to get the boat off the line. Great cam.
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i believe hp calculator calculates power at the crank not the wheels. so 328 at the wheels is somewhere around 400 at the crank. i also had the cc503 with unorted heads and made 320 at the wheels going through a th400 with a 4500 stall and a moser 9" i went 11.70's with that combo and spraying a 150 shot on it went 10.70's. i guess my point is dyno numbers arent good for anything but tuning.

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
and no one noticed that the dyno seemed to be in someones garage....is that right??
no its a well known performance shop in the area
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I've been talkin to Stealth and im definetly goin with the 503.... just got a question. Everybody's been saying that this cam works wonders on stock heads, does that mean that it wont gain much from some head porting? I guess im asking how much you can gain from some work on the stockers? Thanks for the input.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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It really depends on what your heads will flow, if you get a good dynotune afterwards, and supporting mods. I don't think you will break 400rwhp with this cam but I'd say 380 is possible.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by projekt70chevelle
I've been talkin to Stealth and im definetly goin with the 503.... just got a question. Everybody's been saying that this cam works wonders on stock heads, does that mean that it wont gain much from some head porting? I guess im asking how much you can gain from some work on the stockers? Thanks for the input.
I've heard that heads really wake the 503 up so I would think it woudl respond nicely to some head work


anyone think my 328rwhp thru the auto is low im wondering if id benefit from having someone else tune it?

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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i have a cc503 and GTP heads and the heads really did wonders for it. i have not dynotuned it yet but i think it makes in the 370-380 range when i compare it to some other cars i have driven and/or riden in.

and no you numbers sound about right, take it to the track. if it does not perform well there then think about another tune.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:51 AM
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I have also beenwaiting on someone to hav the mods and numbers im looking for. Great car
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