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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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So im building a 383 and i wanna get these rods and pistons
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...53&CtgID=22946
and this crank
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/category.asp?CtgID=8470

you think that will be good for a 200 shot on a splayed 4 bolt block?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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It shouldnt be a problem, I have those pistons but its setup like this:

2-bolt mains
Block decked w/ pistons .10 or is it .010 in the hole???
.29" GM gasket
Cast Eagle Crank 3.48
Forged JE -5cc Pistons
Forged I-Beam Rods 6" w/ L-19 rod bolts

Im planning on spraying 200 as well on race fuel but not very often. A forged crank and H-Beam setup should be more than enough to handle that amount of nitrous.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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whats your compression ratio?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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If I'm not mistaken its around 11.7 but once I get the heads ported it should go down a little. My plans were to get the heads ported later on that's why I didnt zero deck the block.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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oh okay see the pistons i got say 11.9 with the stock 58cc so i think i have to use a stock head gasket to make it not too high compression
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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I would go ahead and upgrade the rod bolts to the arp2000, it almost doubles the rating of the rods....
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Most H/C setups should be around 11.1-11.5 with -5cc pistons depending on the head gasket. Of course a stock sized gasket will be closer to the 1st c/r and a thinner one would be in the mid 11's. That's not a rule of thumb though, because deck hight and other little factors can change compression.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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So for the crank/rods/pistons you will be in just about $1600 and it will be Eagle which is servicable but not that good, I would sooner buy Scat. Eagle is well known to be hard to balance and even if you buy their balanced stuff it needs to be redone, $160 minimum there, throw in the cost of bearings and upgraded rod bolts, you are approaching the price of a Compstar Speedpack with far superior rods and crank and would have Mahle pistons all balanced by Callies.

CNC Motorsports sells a lot of junk, I bought 1.65 rockers from them to try and nudge a little more out of a combo and when they measured 1.6 CNC could not have cared less, I wouldn't trust them any further than I could thow an engine block.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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you really think that crank and rods are that shitty?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Not shitty, but not as good as most people think. They will hold the power you are looking to make but for barely any more money you can get much better stuff.
Cheap rods go out of round after a few torque cycles, best case being another $160 to rebuild them worst case you miss it and they eat a bearing causing who knows how much damage.

Add it all up, bearings, balance etc. The Compstar Speedpack which is Callies "budget" line forged overseas crank and rods machined here by Callies, with Mahle pistons retail about something like $2000-2100 ready to drop in a block, balanced and with bearings. Really a hell of a value.
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