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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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I think $400 is more than fair of a price. If you went to a shop and had someone make this for you your looking at well over a grand. He already did the hard part and designed something that works. The only thing I'm concerned about is the sway bar part. When you say relocate it, how do you go about doing that? Do you have any pics of the top of your engine bay? This deletes the A/C correct?
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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I just looked at your set up!!! very nice. I'm interested, if you can come up with a way for me to retain my sway bar that would be great.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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I just looked at your set up!!! very nice. I'm interested, if you can come up with a way for me to retain my sway bar that would be great.
I think your on your own on that one. I dont have my swaybar or mounts anymore, even if i wanted to try and mount it. I couldnt.

I would guess with some swaybar drop down brackets (I think these are common for 4x4 guys) and possibly shorter links you could make it work, ground clearance might be an issue though?

maybe something like this?

http://4x4trailhunters.com/article.php?id=13
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Get the Belt Part number for sure, I am definatly interested, The one thing I hate most working on cars is the cluttered engine bays, I have always hated the Accessory bracket setup, big and ugly, lol.
How much does your bracket weigh in comparison to the stock one???

Did you just lengthen the alternator plug in, or buy an extension????
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
Get the Belt Part number for sure, I am definatly interested, The one thing I hate most working on cars is the cluttered engine bays, I have always hated the Accessory bracket setup, big and ugly, lol.
How much does your bracket weigh in comparison to the stock one???

Did you just lengthen the alternator plug in, or buy an extension????
belt pn 5060440 from advance. Should be a 44 cm belt.

I dont know what a stock one weighs, but mine probably weighs close to the stocker. Its not heavy by any means if thats what you are worried about.

I had to make the wiring harness for my car anyway, so the alternator wiring was not an issue for me. But yes, you would probably have to extend the field wire on a stock harness.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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what about mounting the alternator in place of the AIR pump for the !AIR guys that have swaybars. LS style.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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what about mounting the alternator in place of the AIR pump for the !AIR guys that have swaybars. LS style.
Their is already a kit for that.
Will's kit is perfect for the Charger guys who want to keep PS. Been looking for years for such a kit, lol.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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nice setup, real nice. its easily worth $400. Id buy it.
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
Their is already a kit for that.
Will's kit is perfect for the Charger guys who want to keep PS. Been looking for years for such a kit, lol.

Where can I find this?
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Where can I find this?
A company use to sell them, (drivers side of course) but I don't know if they sell them anymore.
To be honest Will's kit is the best I have seen, looks really clean and actually gets rid of the stock peice. The other kit if you are wanting to keep the PS you have to use the factory bracket.
How many people do will have that are willing to buy one of these?? I'll Buy one.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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I think your on your own on that one. I dont have my swaybar or mounts anymore, even if i wanted to try and mount it. I couldnt.

I would guess with some swaybar drop down brackets (I think these are common for 4x4 guys) and possibly shorter links you could make it work, ground clearance might be an issue though?

maybe something like this?

http://4x4trailhunters.com/article.php?id=13

I'm still interested in your kit. Do you know approximately how close the sway bar was to this set up? 1/2 an inch, or is this something that totally blocks the path of the sway bar by several inches? I know the sway bar thing is whats stopping me from 100% saying yes to this right now. I'm sure other people are in my same shoes. Would it be possible for you to include a picture of the sway bar next to the stock location? This would give us an idea on how much modifications are necessary.

My only other option at this point other than using your kit is getting an electric power steering pump from a BMW and installing just the alternator.

If we can figure out the sway bar thing, I believe you could look at selling more than the 5 units you want to sell. I think this could become a fairly popular mod that most people would be willing to pay some money for. You could see yourself selling 5 of these a month down the road? I think its an excellent mod for under hood appeal, and gives plenty more room to work on things.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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I'm still interested in your kit. Do you know approximately how close the sway bar was to this set up? 1/2 an inch, or is this something that totally blocks the path of the sway bar by several inches? I know the sway bar thing is whats stopping me from 100% saying yes to this right now. I'm sure other people are in my same shoes. Would it be possible for you to include a picture of the sway bar next to the stock location? This would give us an idea on how much modifications are necessary.

My only other option at this point other than using your kit is getting an electric power steering pump from a BMW and installing just the alternator.

If we can figure out the sway bar thing, I believe you could look at selling more than the 5 units you want to sell. I think this could become a fairly popular mod that most people would be willing to pay some money for. You could see yourself selling 5 of these a month down the road? I think its an excellent mod for under hood appeal, and gives plenty more room to work on things.
I might be wrong but I think some aftermarket company makes a "Thinner" sway bar that might possible work? I know your saying your car is a daily and so is mine, and I have had the sway bar off since day one. I can't even tell the difference with or without it. I say Toss the thing, or at least take it off for a week or so and see what your think IMO.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thesoundandthefury
I agree that it's a well thought out/engineered piece. I think the only thing that might hold you back is the swaybar issue. (That might make it a hard sell with the daily driver crowd.)

I took the liberty of doing a little research to see what would be involved in relocating the swaybar, but I came up empty. Do you have any info on this?
You should be able to shim the sway bar down. People do it all the time on LS style turbo setups.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
I might be wrong but I think some aftermarket company makes a "Thinner" sway bar that might possible work? I know your saying your car is a daily and so is mine, and I have had the sway bar off since day one. I can't even tell the difference with or without it. I say Toss the thing, or at least take it off for a week or so and see what your think IMO.
I can tell mines not there, but i like it. My car is built for going in a straight line, so I couldnt care how it handles. It definatley launches better with no front bar.

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I'm still interested in your kit. Do you know approximately how close the sway bar was to this set up? 1/2 an inch, or is this something that totally blocks the path of the sway bar by several inches? I know the sway bar thing is whats stopping me from 100% saying yes to this right now. I'm sure other people are in my same shoes. Would it be possible for you to include a picture of the sway bar next to the stock location? This would give us an idea on how much modifications are necessary.
Again, I do not have a sway bar (I threw it away, I'm not just saying its not on the car). So, I cannot mount it to see what kind of clearance it has.

However, if someone local wants to bring me an otherwise stock car, I can mount my bracket and im sure I can find a way to get a sway bar on it. But i'm not about to tackle that on my car, because I have so much stuff removed under my hood, what fits mine, might not fit others.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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You need to post over on CamaroZ28.com too. I know there are a ton of people who wanted a Alternator kit on the passenger side that wanted to retain the PS.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by transampimp
If we can figure out the sway bar thing, I believe you could look at selling more than the 5 units you want to sell. I think this could become a fairly popular mod that most people would be willing to pay some money for. You could see yourself selling 5 of these a month down the road? I think its an excellent mod for under hood appeal, and gives plenty more room to work on things.
Get the sway bar to work and I'd be all over it!
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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You need to post over on CamaroZ28.com too. I know there are a ton of people who wanted a Alternator kit on the passenger side that wanted to retain the PS.
I did. I got zero replies!
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Houdini
Get the sway bar to work and I'd be all over it!
Okay

Heres the deal with the swaybar. As the bracket sits right now, one would have to lower the swaybar to where it would more than likely hang lower than the k member.

But, I'm 98% sure i can move some the the accesories around on the bracket and make room for everything with the swaybar in place. Only problem, my car is so far from stock, I would not want to use it as a test platform.

So, if anyone local is willing to let me use there car for a day or two to measure and fit, I think it can be done.

Bad news (not for you guys) is that a redesigned bracket that would use the swaybar will never work on my car, right now the bracket is about .25" from my turbo...

Any takers on a doner car around Atlanta?
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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nice work Will!!!!

price is cheap, imho! i am certain a fair bit of development went into it. for the people that think it is priced on the high side, oh well. we all have our 2 cents worth

i didn't read every post, but do you think steel threaded inserts would save time on the mfg of the pieces? and we know what can happens to aluminum threads over time.
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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Okay

Heres the deal with the swaybar. As the bracket sits right now, one would have to lower the swaybar to where it would more than likely hang lower than the k member.

But, I'm 98% sure i can move some the the accesories around on the bracket and make room for everything with the swaybar in place. Only problem, my car is so far from stock, I would not want to use it as a test platform.

So, if anyone local is willing to let me use there car for a day or two to measure and fit, I think it can be done.

Bad news (not for you guys) is that a redesigned bracket that would use the swaybar will never work on my car, right now the bracket is about .25" from my turbo...

Any takers on a doner car around Atlanta?

I hope you find a donor car. I don't think it would be that hard to do. If you can re design this a tiny bit. Allowing for slight or no sway bar modifications, I believe you will have a highly marketable product. I'd loan you my car but I live in Michigan. You could send me a modified piece. I could give you a deposit on it. If it didn't work I could just send it back. If it works I'll pay you the full amount, and you will know for sure that it works.
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