1.6rr help
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Staging Lane
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1.6rr help Hey everyone i'm new here. I just recently bought some Comp Cams 1.6 Pro Magnum Rockers 1318-16. My question is do i need to replace anything else? I'm leaving the factory cam in it. I was told the springs should be fine and to roll the pushrods on a smooth surface to see if they were bent and also examine the ends of the pushrods for flaking or galling. Thanks for your input
And personally, I'd do the springs as well. 96 LT4 springs are a cheap (60 or so) reasonable (appropriate pressures and lift capacity for the slight [+about 10%] increase in lift you'll see with the rockers) choice for 1.6s with stock cam. You will also need to verify that the tip of the rocker rolls over the center of the valve tip, or in other words, verify valvetrain geometry. If they do not, you may need a different length pushrod.
Also if you are going to continue to mod you are going to want to replace the lifters any how. In my case over winter when I upgrade to the 1.6's it's foolish not to replace the lifters and springs with them. The lifters are right underneath the rockers, why not? With higher mileage parts you'll install them just to take them out and reinstall them again because something else gave out. Do it right the first time. Now if your motor is relatively new then disregard this.
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I think you will be just fine with stock lifters and springs, but would recommend the new pushrods, very cheap insurance...... I bought a set of comp cams pro magnum 1.6:1's and they came with harndened pushrods, check the box, you may have got a set with them also...
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Well let me rephrase that. Your right you don't need lifters on a stock cam, but why not save yourself an extra headache? Especially if the motor has over 100k on it.
Also if you are going to continue to mod you are going to want to replace the lifters any how. In my case over winter when I upgrade to the 1.6's it's foolish not to replace the lifters and springs with them. The lifters are right underneath the rockers, why not? With higher mileage parts you'll install them just to take them out and reinstall them again because something else gave out. Do it right the first time. Now if your motor is relatively new then disregard this.
Also if you are going to continue to mod you are going to want to replace the lifters any how. In my case over winter when I upgrade to the 1.6's it's foolish not to replace the lifters and springs with them. The lifters are right underneath the rockers, why not? With higher mileage parts you'll install them just to take them out and reinstall them again because something else gave out. Do it right the first time. Now if your motor is relatively new then disregard this.
No reason to pull the intake for rocker swap.
blackz6sp has a very good point, pulling the intake can be a pain. The thing is 93blackt/a, its your call. Anytime i mod my car im always looking for what i should do along with it to make sure i dont break the next thing in line... just looking for that "extra security." If the car is close to or over 100k miles i would deff. suggest swapin the lifters. Is it required for 1.6rr's... NO.... should you do it? probably. The only reason i didnt change the lifters when i put in the 1.6rr's is because i unexpectedly broke a rocker arm and didnt have the lifters for my cam swap yet (which should be goin down in a couple weeks cant wait man). I would suggest doing it just to make sure they dont fail on you in the future. I would also do the springs like boodyrider said, just to livin up that worn valvetrain. Not only that but if you're new to the LT1's it'll help you feel your way around the engine a bit. Like i said its your call bro......
blackz6sp has a very good point, pulling the intake can be a pain. The thing is 93blackt/a, its your call. Anytime i mod my car im always looking for what i should do along with it to make sure i dont break the next thing in line... just looking for that "extra security." If the car is close to or over 100k miles i would deff. suggest swapin the lifters. Is it required for 1.6rr's... NO.... should you do it? probably. The only reason i didnt change the lifters when i put in the 1.6rr's is because i unexpectedly broke a rocker arm and didnt have the lifters for my cam swap yet (which should be goin down in a couple weeks cant wait man). I would suggest doing it just to make sure they dont fail on you in the future. I would also do the springs like boodyrider said, just to livin up that worn valvetrain. Not only that but if you're new to the LT1's it'll help you feel your way around the engine a bit. Like i said its your call bro......
New lifters are for sure extra security, but then again when the old ones go it more incentive for a Cam Swap
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i have SA 1.6RRs and after 5K mi i checked back on them. i had 2 pushrods broken and i don't beat on it nearly as hard as some people would. everything else was fine, though. i recommend hardened pushrods. if you have a low mileage motor, then your stock springs will be fine.
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Staging Lane
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Wow thanks for the input guys Well the car has 123k on it so i probably need to swap out the lifters 
I'm guessing you can get a spring tool to the back of the motor with having to drop the motor??
Well the car has 123k on it so i probably need to swap out the lifters I'm guessing you can get a spring tool to the back of the motor with having to drop the motor?? 
Well let me rephrase that. Your right you don't need lifters on a stock cam, but why not save yourself an extra headache? Especially if the motor has over 100k on it.
Also if you are going to continue to mod you are going to want to replace the lifters any how. In my case over winter when I upgrade to the 1.6's it's foolish not to replace the lifters and springs with them. The lifters are right underneath the rockers, why not? With higher mileage parts you'll install them just to take them out and reinstall them again because something else gave out. Do it right the first time. Now if your motor is relatively new then disregard this.
Also if you are going to continue to mod you are going to want to replace the lifters any how. In my case over winter when I upgrade to the 1.6's it's foolish not to replace the lifters and springs with them. The lifters are right underneath the rockers, why not? With higher mileage parts you'll install them just to take them out and reinstall them again because something else gave out. Do it right the first time. Now if your motor is relatively new then disregard this.
now if he was doing a cam swap then i would agree with you. but for a simple rocker change dont worry about it.
sorry bad picture. the middle is where the lifters are. rockers up top
Last edited by Badazz 97 TA; Nov 16, 2007 at 04:49 PM.