How to: LS1 lid to LT1 lid
ok since we are on the topic why dont people just do this ?
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
x3, I agree though I don't wanna cut up my car that way just to put a Lid on it.. The LS1 has a extra 3.5'' of clearance from the core support to the top of the fender thats why they can fit that lid so if I cannot get that extra clearance with a custom hood or the Ultra Z hood I'll just stick with a custom LT1 style CAI.
First off, i don't see any CAI making that much of a difference on the "butt dyno"...secondly i can't see a lid making even more of a difference over a normal CAI on top of that...third i think its absolutely ridiculous people are hacking up their radiator supports for a freaking CAI
1996-1997 Firebird Ram Air Components-Whether you are converting a non-Ram Air car, or simply need replacement components for your existing system, we carry everything needed to make the scoops in your 1996-1997 Ram Air hood functional.
Seems that the old 1996 - 1997 Firehawks, Ws6 and SS came with a ram-air setup. Yearone sells the whole Ram-Air setup for $232.00 shipped ready to go. That was the link i posted. I mean the 98+ lid does the same damn thing as a ready to go bolt on LT1 Ram-Air Kit, kinda seems pointless for cutting up my **** for a lid when i can go buy something that fits perfect. here is the exact link just dont know if it will bring it up.
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
Seems that the old 1996 - 1997 Firehawks, Ws6 and SS came with a ram-air setup. Yearone sells the whole Ram-Air setup for $232.00 shipped ready to go. That was the link i posted. I mean the 98+ lid does the same damn thing as a ready to go bolt on LT1 Ram-Air Kit, kinda seems pointless for cutting up my **** for a lid when i can go buy something that fits perfect. here is the exact link just dont know if it will bring it up.
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
First off, i don't see any CAI making that much of a difference on the "butt dyno"...secondly i can't see a lid making even more of a difference over a normal CAI on top of that...third i think its absolutely ridiculous people are hacking up their radiator supports for a freaking CAI
I went from the LT1 Elbow Intake to a setup that was about 12" in length of air travel at the longest point, and it was a straight shot. I ran it at the Track and gained about .2 of a sec after I took of my original Elbowed CAI.
Take what I have setup now.. the Lid going into a 85mm Z06 MAF(the Lid actually fits inside of it), then into the Bellow, and then into the 90mm TB. That will flow a hell of alot more air than any kind of Elbow style CAI.
I'm willing to bet that if I put on a Elbow style CAI, I will lose time with my setup now..
You could call it ridiculous, I call it experimenting, and I'm sure others do the same. IMO some people could sharpen theirs up, and then some of the Conversions look really sharp.
I'll be the first to say that my Car is no show car..I make what I do look clean, but it's a budget build. I like to try new ideas and see if I can achieve them, hence my 402 LSX/L92 swap.
Some of you guys here have some sharp Cars, they look really nice. Mine is just a toy and a project.. the only thing it shows really well is Tail Lights..
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Think about it... 90* turn for your intake air versus straight shot? Hmm...
I was recently talking to one of the LTX godfathers on here. We were talking about how to improve the setup on my '94. One of the first things he said was "get rid of the 90* turn that you intake air has to make. That will provide a significant gain."
My Comp T/A was rated 20 HP more than a non-ram air of the same year. OK, it had a slightly less restrictive cat back but where did the rest of the gain come from? And this was on a bone stock car.
That Comp T/A was the hardest-pulling stock LT1 car I've ever driven.
1996-1997 Firebird Ram Air Components-Whether you are converting a non-Ram Air car, or simply need replacement components for your existing system, we carry everything needed to make the scoops in your 1996-1997 Ram Air hood functional.
Seems that the old 1996 - 1997 Firehawks, Ws6 and SS came with a ram-air setup. Yearone sells the whole Ram-Air setup for $232.00 shipped ready to go. That was the link i posted. I mean the 98+ lid does the same damn thing as a ready to go bolt on LT1 Ram-Air Kit, kinda seems pointless for cutting up my **** for a lid when i can go buy something that fits perfect. here is the exact link just dont know if it will bring it up.
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
Seems that the old 1996 - 1997 Firehawks, Ws6 and SS came with a ram-air setup. Yearone sells the whole Ram-Air setup for $232.00 shipped ready to go. That was the link i posted. I mean the 98+ lid does the same damn thing as a ready to go bolt on LT1 Ram-Air Kit, kinda seems pointless for cutting up my **** for a lid when i can go buy something that fits perfect. here is the exact link just dont know if it will bring it up.
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/f...ain2.asp?cat=G
http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com...tore_Code=CCTI
...but I still appreciate the initiative of the diy'ers, plus theirs fit under a stock hood.
All the LS1 Lids are pretty much the same, it's a matter of where you mount it.
Has anyone thought to modify the core support to sit lower rather then cut it? It wouldn't and shouldn't effect the radiator or the ac it looks as it would only affect the hood latch but seems minor then cutting it.
Ok Someone posted up the Corvette C5 FPK I think it was. It does not look like you would have to cut it and it looks like it would put it right where the front air dam pushes all the air from under the front of the car as it is... I think it would be perfect but I can not find the damn things.
I Had a stock LS1 Lid and decided if I was going to do this it would ONLY be with the Vette FPK Kit as thats the best way in my mind as it uses the factory setup for great air flow, puts everything right in front and would not take near as much cutting if any depending on angling.
Just my 2 cents.
I Had a stock LS1 Lid and decided if I was going to do this it would ONLY be with the Vette FPK Kit as thats the best way in my mind as it uses the factory setup for great air flow, puts everything right in front and would not take near as much cutting if any depending on angling.
Just my 2 cents.
Ok Someone posted up the Corvette C5 FPK I think it was. It does not look like you would have to cut it and it looks like it would put it right where the front air dam pushes all the air from under the front of the car as it is... I think it would be perfect but I can not find the damn things.
I Had a stock LS1 Lid and decided if I was going to do this it would ONLY be with the Vette FPK Kit as thats the best way in my mind as it uses the factory setup for great air flow, puts everything right in front and would not take near as much cutting if any depending on angling.
Just my 2 cents.
I Had a stock LS1 Lid and decided if I was going to do this it would ONLY be with the Vette FPK Kit as thats the best way in my mind as it uses the factory setup for great air flow, puts everything right in front and would not take near as much cutting if any depending on angling.
Just my 2 cents.
I think that's what you're talking about. Does it come with the maf?
Anyways, this conversion seems like it will be beneficial or else why did they do it to the LS1's. I was thinking of doing it, expecially since I got rid of my a/c components
i think ellis did the best job of everybody...everyone elses looks like crap...
mine even does look that good...but i simpy cut the radiator support completely out then welded in a 2 inch square tube(all i had)
i kept the stock ls1 radiator hold down though
mine even does look that good...but i simpy cut the radiator support completely out then welded in a 2 inch square tube(all i had)
i kept the stock ls1 radiator hold down though
http://www.lmperformance.com/651/4.html
I think that's what you're talking about. Does it come with the maf?
Anyways, this conversion seems like it will be beneficial or else why did they do it to the LS1's. I was thinking of doing it, expecially since I got rid of my a/c components
I think that's what you're talking about. Does it come with the maf?
Anyways, this conversion seems like it will be beneficial or else why did they do it to the LS1's. I was thinking of doing it, expecially since I got rid of my a/c components
Did anyone try it on a 93-97 ram air Trans Am hood (sun coast creations) ? Im getting ready to install the upper rad support and lid off of a 2000 Z. It looks like its going to fit under the hood I have on it without cutting the plastic LS1 support. No way im cutting up the front steel brace for this so Ill just trim plastic where needed. Im ditching the K&N kit for this lid setup, dont like where the K&N pinchs down between the ABS and radiator. Also dont like all of the 90* bends it makes to get to the filter.